FILMED examples of thumbing / eye gouging

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  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bronsonville Full Member

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    Thumbing and eye gouging is an oft mentioned dirty tactic of the detached thumb 'era', especially for the old timers. Yet I struggle to really think of a blatant filmed instance off the top of my head.

    Any examples?
     
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  2. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali vs Ernie Terrell
     
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  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One of Pedroza's fights he was accused of thumbing repeatedly. May have been Laporte, but I'm not sure.
    Duran was accused of thumbing Moore intentionally if I remember right.
    Holmes also had the reputation of thumbing.
    Back in the day , it was expected, just like a cut eye, or lip, or a clash of heads. fighters were expected to fight through it. Many did, went on and won with the injury. It was seen as part of the game.
     
  4. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Stud Pony Full Member

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    I imagine Larry shamelessly nodding to himself in approval after every gouge.
     
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  5. The Fighting Yoda

    The Fighting Yoda Member Full Member

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    Young Stribling was eye gauging/thumbing a lot against Max Schmeling.
     
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  6. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    I thought of Duran-Moore too but only because it was mentioned in the past but I don't know if there's any clear evidence on the film. Particularly as it's harder to thumb with those gloves than it would be with the ones the old-timers wore.
     
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  7. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I recall Pedroza hitting low, rabbit punching, lacing, holding and hitting and butting but don't remember thumbs. Some things are easily enough lost in the shuffle of course.
     
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  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It didn't help him much :)
     
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  9. The Fighting Yoda

    The Fighting Yoda Member Full Member

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    That's true and he stopped after Schmeling used the trick himself.
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure Foreman was accused of this is somebody. I know he's definitely admitted to doing it.
     
  11. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Stud Pony Full Member

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    Schmeling's leverages where simply too high.
     
  12. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw New Member Full Member

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    Were any legal tactis lost when they stitched the thumb to the rest of the glove? I've heard boxers had more leeway with parrying and clinching movements before the gloves became essentially club ends.

    1920s boxing gloves almost look similar to current MMA gloves.
     
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  13. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, some tactics were lost . It was far easier to control an arm with the old gloves, using it to get the opponent off balance and take advantage of an opening created by a subtle hold or pull/ push.
    We've all heard the term " Sweet Science " .
    But at one time their was a" Science to infighting ".
    A part of the game that has been lost, even more than body punching and the slip and counter.
     
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  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ...very true , I've seen some of those gloves and you can grapple with them and actually grab an arm. I believe those type gloves really drove some of the tactics and styles you see on the old footage.
     
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  15. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Duran got accused of doing that vs Moore.