~~~ Final and Official ESB MAYWEATHER v. HATTON ~ ANALYSIS and PREDICTION Thread ~~~

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It will be very interesting to see whether it will be Hatton's very aggressiveness that leads to him getting stopped (on a cut??) or whether PBF potshots him contended to shut him out...

    I don't think there can be a close decision in this fight...if Ricky wins rounds he will also stop Mayweather...probably before the 6th...

    Mayweather TKO (probably in the 9th or later, probably on a cut or bad swelling and cut) - 38%
    Mayweather very wide UD - 32%
    Hatton KO - 20%
    rest of 10% - everything else...???

    :think
     
  3. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and it would be foolish not to bring it all against a competitive challenger such as Hatton. Floyd just has one thing to prove next Saturday night and that is that his assets are overall superior to whatever somebody else brings to the table - he really doesn't have to challenge himself or make any sort of statement b.c. that winning formula is a good enough argument so that he can look up to the future, detractors will always be there. Handspeed, footwork, mobility, defense, strategic intelligence, fluidity, consistency, close your eyes and take one of this as the most important trait of his - I say that the most important against Hatton are the variety of punches and the punching accuracy ( or clean punching if you prefer) translated into CompuBox stats as total punch output and connect rates.

    Hatton: Ricky is the most intense fighter have stepped in the ring with Floyd until this point and he needs to bring the best of that to make that inhibit Floyd to bring his own best. Hatton is clearly challenging Floyd in what concerns to fighting heart, will power and capacity of sacrifice and how that translates into the fight pace, power punch exchanges and ability to take a shot n fight back... And if Floyd Mayweather tries to make this into an ego issue, he runs into risk of ending in the wrong side of the test results b.c. he can very well fall into Hatton's kind of fight.
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  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Thank you! Great stuff!:good
     
  5. raiderjay

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    Hatton in a close SD. Floyd will be more accurate and maybe even move Hatton backwards a few times with his counters, but Hatton will press constant pressure, be way more active and win off of sheer volume punching.
     
  6. josak

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    Ricky by UD or SD.
     
  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    This is my take:
    Mayweather TKO: 30%
    Mayweather UD: 50%
    Hatton TKO: 5%
    Hatton UD: 15%
     
  8. Decebal

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    :good Interesting...:think
     
  9. ikedion

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    What do you think each will bring to the table?
    MAYWEATHER
    Technical Skill, Movement, Strategy, Superior Defense, reflexes, speed, Ability to fight without EMOTION

    HATTON
    Pressure, Brawling, Body Punches, Heart, toughness, the crowd. Good footwork underrated boxing ability

    how do you think this fight will play out?

    I foresee mayweather for the first few rounds to be on the back foot being elusive from the ever stalking Hatton, pot shotting with left hooks and straight rights while going to the body with the jabs. While Hatton will be trying to cut the ring to be able to pin Mayweather on the ropes to unleash with a barrage of punches, but when Hatton does get close a hold will be instigated by either fighter and reset to Hatton following Floyd around. The crowd will boo mayweather as the will be pro Hatton but mayweather undeterred by this because he fights to win and shows no emotions in ring will keep to this strategy in the first few rounds. Occasionally Hatton will pin mayweather to the ropes and throw punches which will be blocked (watch Guzman V Soto) while eating sharp uppercuts.

    As the rounds progress and go into the midround Hatton will get frustrated as he is fighting on pure emotion and adrenaline while being unable to muster a real sustained attack that is able to hurt Floyd, while mayweather will then to decide to sit on his punches a bit more due to him realizing that Hatton has got power but not enough power to demand him not doing so.
    Hatton has great stamina but being frustrated will result in Hatton showing a lot of tiredness but fighting on due to the crowd and great heart that he has.

    At this time I can’t decide what will happen, but I share with you two scenarios
    1. Mayweather boxes and waits for the judges as he knows his clearly won by just picking of the stalking but frustrated Hatton… (Safe scenario)
    2. He goes for the kill by opening up on Hatton and stops Hatton on his feet. (Show the world I am the boss scenario)

    DECEMBER 8. Will all see should be a great fight cant wait
     
  10. Decebal

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    :good
     
  11. huki

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    Mine would look like this:

    Mayweather TKO: 65%
    Mayweather UD: 25%
    Hatton TKO: 6%
    Hatton UD: 4%

    I would truly be shocked if Hatton even made this competitive. He's just too easy to hit and Floyd is better than him in every single way, including power, chin, stamina, and in-fighting (Hatton's supposed strengths). I expect Floyd to really start to sit on his punches in the second half of the fight and go for the stoppage. If Floyd makes this fight even somewhat close because of his low punch output I will lose a lot respect for him as a boxer. He picked this fight against a junior welter who he has huge stylistic advantages over to look impressive, so he better look damn impressive. It shouldn't be hard for him as long as he throws a lot of punches. Collazo countered Hatton easily and was on his way to stopping him, so Floyd should be able to do it even before the championship rounds if he pushes.
     
  12. Decebal

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    I think, generally, Ricky will aim to be very busy, throw many punches and keep the rhythm very high throughout the fight. He will aim to stop Floyd with some bodyshots after the first 4-5 rounds, but will bank on the decision, all-in-all.

    Ricky will base his gameplan on his footwork and on the volume and accuracy of punches. He will use his side to side crab-like motion-jumps to cut off the ring, apply pressure, defend and set up the angles at the same time...

    He will not use a jab as much as he will try to manhandle Floyd, positioning him for a body-shot. He will hit to the body, hard and precise, side-jump and repeat, hoping to set up his left hook and right cross...

    Ricky will come out strong and fast, aiming to make a statement from the first bell - he is here to win - and aiming to take all the confidence away from Floyd.

    Floyd will generally not "run" as much as people think he might. Instead he will aim to outbox Ricky out for the first couple of rounds, trying to show him who's boss and sapping his confidence. Later on, he will aim to defend more and tire him out by having him miss whilst pot-shotting him, his back against the ropes. He will aim to stop Ricky on a cut but will also bank on the decision.

    Ricky might take the first two, as planned. Afterwards, I think Floyd will start making Ricky miss more whilst pot-shotting him, trying to cause as much damage, even if it doesn't score so much. Against the ropes, I expect Floyd to hit to the body and use his uppercut and hooks a lot.

    So, first 2 rounds or so to Ricky on aggressiveness and effort, then, next 5 rounds or so shared between them, with Floyd taking the lion share and starting to impose his own style on Ricky.

    From round 7 on, I expect Floyd will start using Ricky's come-forward even more against him, making him miss and punishing him...I expect the next three rounds to be used to open up a cut and wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the 9th, the ref will have had no other option but to stop it.

    If Ricky holds up well though through the middle rounds, I expect Floyd to fight inside more, in the middle of the ring, to impress the judges and take away from Ricky's confidece, working his body and using his uppercut and hooks.

    If Ricky doesn't look like being stopped, I expect Floyd to use the last quarter of the fight to outscore his opponent and go for the decision.

    I think that the more effective Ricky is, however, the better Floyd will fight and the more he will commit himself. Thus, since I expect Ricky to show much heart, energy and resilience, I expect Floyd to give it his very best, even standing toe-to-toe with him, if this is what it takes. However, I think that the more aggressive Ricky is, the more he will be punished for his lack of jab and defense and the higher the chance of a stoppage on a cut. Floyd's height ans size advantage and of course, skill and talent advantage will make the difference, I think. I don't think Ricky will be strong, fast and energetic enough to make up for his disadvantages.

    I predict Mayweather TKO 9 but can also see Mayweather UD 9 to 3, with 3-4 rounds going to Ricky for aggressiveness, energy and number of punches thrown...but if it goes to the judges, I expect the scorecard to look very close, maybe as close as Mayweather 7 to 5...
     
  13. Decebal

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    Can anyone improve on brooklyn1550's and Dorfmeister's analyses?:hey
     
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    If Floyd was not such a smart fighter who kept his cool. I would pick Hatton. But Mayweather is just going to be too much for Hatton on this night.

    Look for Hatton to come out fast, applying pressure early. Floyd will be backing up early and letting Hatton execute his relentless come forward gameplan. Ricky will eat counter right hands early. From round 5 and on, look for Ricky to get outboxed and get tired around round 8. He will make it out of the fight because Floyd will not look to knock him out. Easy decision for Floyd. 8-4 or 7-5 rnds.