~~~ Final and Official ESB MAYWEATHER v. HATTON ~ ANALYSIS and PREDICTION Thread ~~~

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  1. Hrak

    Hrak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    PBF by decision but im rooting for Hatton.
     
  2. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Mayweather by UD, possible late TKO
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Let's have some analysis to back up those predictions, please! What do you think will make the biggest difference?:think
     
  4. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hatton fights best off the clinch.

    He walks around the ring with his chin out and his hands down around his waist, for some unknown reason. Then wings his punches from his hips. I think it works against slower opponents, because he does move in with great speed and from all angles.

    Floyd will see those coming from a mile away. He will either black with his elbows or duck under them. And then counter his ass like he was hitting the mitts with Roger.

    Hatton's only chance is hitting Floyd right off the clinch, where he can attack and hope to land on anything, no matter it is. Floyd usually doesnt throw right off clinches, so Ricky needs to get off and get back out right away before getting cut up by counters, and then go right back in for another clinch. Dont try **** from outside, ever. Get inside, hug Floyd like he was your granny, and just get off from there. Hope to outlast him in the end.

    Hatton needs to make this fight as ugly as it can possibly be. Risk the warnings even. Borederline low blows, rabbit punches... Doesnt matter. Thats the only way he wins the fight.

    Oh and I am picking Hatton by the way guys.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Interesting...I know what you mean about those looping throws off the clinch...and I agree that Hatton will try to make this ugly...in fact, he said he would! He also said he didn't expect any favours from the ref, though...and he shouldn't because he's not going to get too many in Las Vegas...:yep
     
  6. FRKO

    FRKO "A MAN" Full Member

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    You cannot analyse something that hasn't happened.

    Shall we just wait for the fight to be over, then analyse it?

    I only wish to mention one thing that most others have failed to mention: Ricky will be running on pure adrenaline. It doesn't matter what skills Mayweather has, he'll be fighting a man that wants to win more than he does, and in terms of burning desire to win, Floyd doesn't even come close to Hatton. See what I'm saying? You can analyse all you want. Talk about his movement, speed, power, counter-punching, blah blah blah. There are certain things you are not factoring in, and Ricky's will power is one of them.
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Of course you can! You've just done a bit of analysing right there...:yep ...analysis in this context means drawing out the relevant factors in this fight and arguing for a certain interplay-scenario between these relevant factors...:good

    See some of the previous posts for details...
     
  8. FRKO

    FRKO "A MAN" Full Member

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    With all due respect to you sir, there is no point in me checking out previous posts (I have done, and I gave up) because people are so bloody one-dimensional in their replies.... "blah blah, PBF by UD"... I don't actually mind this at all -- if Ricky wins, you pretty much shat on your own doorstep by doubting him. I will be happy to let the fight pan out and then analyse it. No one can test drive a car when it's in concept stages.
     
  9. FRKO

    FRKO "A MAN" Full Member

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    Thank you for proving my point.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Are you saying that engineers who design a car wouldn't know what to expect from their design until they build it and test drive it? Then, they are not any good! And are you saying that a mechanic wouldn't know how fast a car could go and how steep a hill it could climb without driving it? Not much of a mechanic...I don't understand the conceptual reservations you have where this is concerned...Anyway, here's the most recent best example of an "analysis" of the fight...

    It draws out the strengths and weaknesses of each fighter - like looking at the components of a car...

    It looks at the strategy that each fighter should employ given their strengths and weaknesses - like looking at how the components of a car would make it suitable for a certain job - e.g. climbing steep hills offroad...

    It considers how the various strenghts and weaknesses would have to be employed in a certain strategy in order for the fighter to achieve the task proposed - like considering how the various components of a car would have to interact and they would have to be tuned in order for the car to be able to climb that certain steep hill

    It considers whether given the strengths, best-scenario strategy and adaptation of those strengths to the best-scenario strategy the fighter could indeed come up on top - like considering whether the components properly tuned and set up to climb that hill would indeed allow the car to climb that hill

    It makes a prediction - like predicting whether the car could indeed climb that hill

    ....hope I have explained things reasonably clearly...:good

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    and it would be foolish not to bring it all against a competitive challenger such as Hatton. Floyd just has one thing to prove next Saturday night and that is that his assets are overall superior to whatever somebody else brings to the table - he really doesn't have to challenge himself or make any sort of statement b.c. that winning formula is a good enough argument so that he can look up to the future, detractors will always be there. Handspeed, footwork, mobility, defense, strategic intelligence, fluidity, consistency, close your eyes and take one of this as the most important trait of his - I say that the most important against Hatton are the variety of punches and the punching accuracy ( or clean punching if you prefer) translated into CompuBox stats as total punch output and connect rates.

    Hatton: Ricky is the most intense fighter have stepped in the ring with Floyd until this point and he needs to bring the best of that to make that inhibit Floyd to bring his own best. Hatton is clearly challenging Floyd in what concerns to fighting heart, will power and capacity of sacrifice and how that translates into the fight pace, power punch exchanges and ability to take a shot n fight back... And if Floyd Mayweather tries to make this into an ego issue, he runs into risk of ending in the wrong side of the test results b.c. he can very well fall into Hatton's kind of fight.
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  11. Words

    Words Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My Analysis:

    Floyd will start slow and cautious, as always, and seek to avoid any serious exchanges. Hatton will come out aggressively, but will do little damage in centre ring because of Mayweather's movement. However, as Mayweather keeps backing up, his back eventually hits the ropes and he closes up and tries parrying Hatton's furious assaults. He avoids a lot, but even though he's missing Hatton is the one throwing the serious punches and this catches the judges eye. I expect Hatton to come out strong and win the first 4 rounds on workrate and aggression as Floyd weighs him up and figures him out. The better and more skilled stuff will come from Floyd, but dont expect Floyd to start throwing serious stuff until the later rounds.

    Then the fight gets interesting. Once Floyd gets confident and works out his timing, watch for him to hit Hatton with crisp left-handed jabs straight on Hattons nose. Hatton is fast and wild which will make him harder to hit, but he lunges in with wide punches and is ripe for a quick, short counters. If Floyd hits hard enough to earn Hatton's respect he will be able to stop Hatton from charging in, taming him. Floyd will be able to box and move and keep Hatton at bay. Hatton has occasional moments of success, but the momentum now swings Floyd's way. His counter-shots and combinations bounce of Hatton's chin as he takes control of the fight.

    Its even going into the 8th. The question here is, "does Floyd have the energy, will and stamina to keep the lid on Ricky Hatton in the championship rounds?" I see him being on top in the 9th round, but still being put under serious pressure by Hatton. This is where the fight is won or lost. Floyd rarely fights at a fast pace, and rarely faces men who are as relentless and indomitable as Ricky Hatton. Can he he continue to stay on top of Ricky Hatton for the next 4 rounds, or does he slip up?

    We havent seen Mayweather in such a dangerous position since he fought Jose Luis Castillo, a fight which proves that Mayweather is beatable by a pressure-fighter. Ricky Hatton will make Floyd run around the ring and never get a moment's rest. This will take its toll on Floyd Mayweather. Floyd likes to fight his way and at his pace, but tomorrow he is facing someone with a terrifying will to win that overwhelms techically superior boxers. Thats why he got the decision against Luis Collazo, thats how he made Kostya Tsyzu give up his title on his stool in agony and it's how he will beat Floyd Mayweather. They're all better boxers than Hatton, but they cant beat him because he has a talent to make them fight his fight, to impose his will on the opponent. He dragged Kostya Tszyu and Luis Collazo into the trenches, into painful wars where having a heart and a good jaw matter more than flashy skills. He uses this to nullify the advantage a superior boxer has, and I see him doing it perfectly in this fight.

    Floyd will start to tire from Hatton's pressure around the 10th, and stop trying to match Hatton punch for punch. He will try and cruise the last 3 rounds, believing that winning the middle-rounds will get be enough to win him the fight. He ends up against the ropes and tries to get comfortable, but by going defensive he lets the beast out of its cage. Hatton does not get discouraged and in the final rounds he is getting hit less and still throwing a large quantity of hard punches. Like in the early in the fight, it wins him the rounds on the judges scorecards, and because its later in the fight I expect Floyd to be hurting from the previous 9 rounds of having Hatton banging away at his ribs too. He gets sloppy, starts getting hurt and the fight drifts further away from him. At the same time, Hatton starts coming on strong, forcing Floyd to stand and fight, clearly winning rounds and hurting Floyd visibly. Mayweather is out on his feet in the final round.

    Close fight, but Hatton wins. I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd won but I think my money is on Hatton for this fight.

    Ricky Hatton UD 116-112. Possibly a late round TKO or retirement like Kostya Tszyu.
     
  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Very nice analysis; thank you!:good
     
  13. Strangely Brown

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    Floyd out to put on a show - beats Hatton easily, stops him inside 5/6 rounds.

    Now I'll qualify this by saying I've never seen Floyd fight myself, but if wha I've read is right then Hatton won't get close and the variety of punches will confuse him and he'll get stopped.
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I'll second that..."never seen Floyd fight" - does he mean in the flesh?:huh
     
  15. pecks

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    I went with Floyd TKO, although I think it's a toss up of whether he wins by stoppage or a wide UD.

    If he stops him, it will be around the 8th, or 9th. If he wins UD, it'll be around 118 - 110, or 119 - 109.