Final word on Bute-Andrade

Video footage shows Andrade half way in the ring and still walking toward Bute and the ref,he didn't do anything wrong.Bute won.Remacth is just so obvious to happen and Bute will have to beat him again I guess

 

So are you saying that if the ref started counting right when bute fell and then made bute respong like refs usually do to fighters who are knocked down, Bute would have responded well and not hung on the ropes? We will never know right...and the rules do say a fighter cannot be saved by the bell right? Meldrick Taylor got back up against Chavez however he didnt respond same scenario but different caliber of ref Richard Steele is a HOF.

 

All fights need a ref amn,they can't fight without one,it's boxing :good

 

Agreed,Bute won but Andrade did enough to deserve a rematch

 

Actually we do know he stumbled to his corner after the bell it would be terrible to see a fighter lose like that but if not for the excessive holding would have been over before the 12th:good

 

When Bute was knocked down, and given the mandatory eight count, there was zero possibility of him taking another punch if he got up. That's the bottom line. Bute was up in time and wins, fair and square.

A rematch is warranted.

 

It is not correct that all Bute had to do was to beat the count. The rules clearly states that a fighter can not be saved by the bell, and that was exactly what happened for Bute. The only reason the reff let the fight continue was that he knew the bell would ring straight after. Bute was completely gone and the fight should have been waved off and I'm sure it would have been, had the KD happened in the middle of e.g. round 11. I don't care who won or have more sympathy for either boxer - just got curious and read the rules and there is no doubt in my mind - Andrade won even though he was ********* for 11 rounds.

 

exactly.

 

That is just you'r opinion and it's up to the objectivity of the ref.Rules say he has to nit touch the canvas with anything besides his legs which he was so he beat the count which was the only thing he had to do cuz the fight was over

 

So in your opinion Bute was able to continue fighting?

 

He didn't need to be able to continue fighting cuz the fight was over.He just needed to be up before the count of 10

 

If you had read the rules, you would have seen what rule 6 says:

"The bell will not save a boxer in any round of the bout. If a boxer is "downed" just before the 3-minute bell in any round, the referee's count shall continue and the bell will not ring until the boxer rises and his hands clear the floor."​

In other words, the very seconds Bute rose and his hands cleared the floor, which happened 6 seconds after the end of the three minute period, 8 seconds after he had been knocked down, the timekeeper should have rang the bell and put an end to the fight, because Bute beat the count. But he didn't! He failed to do that. It didn't matter whether Bute was completely gone or not if he beat the count, because once he beat the count, the fight was over and once the fight is over, it doesn't matter if a fighter can continue or not! Bute wouldn't have been saved by the bell because the bell would only have ringed, according to the rules, the very second Bute had risen and his hands had cleared the floor, as long as he hadn't been counted out already, by then. Since Bute beat the count, he wasn't knocked out and since there was nothing to continue either, because the fight was over the very moment he beat the count, he needn't have been in a position to continue either. There is NO rule that says that after you beat the count you have to also be in a position to continue for the bell to be allowed to be ringed. Rule 6 says something very different. Bute beat the count, the fight was over. There was nothing to continue. There was nothing for him to prove he was capable of continuing, because it wasn't a 13 round fight; it was a 12 round fight. He wasn't saved by the bell because he still had to beat the count after the end of the three minute period, for the decision to go to the judges. Had he not beaten the count, he'd have been KOed.​

READ THE RULES, PLEASE!:good ​

RULES:​

http://www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/userfiles/File/IBF-USBA%20Bout%20Rules.pdf​