Finally did research on Roy Jones. He actually did avoid most of the top MW-SMW.

I missed this post and completely agree with what you have written.

 

Go watch the fight and post your scorecard so everyone who has seen it can have a good laugh at you.

 

Did Roy have poor fundamentals?

 

What a load of excrement.

 

dumb ass? You post that and ask me all these questions when it is you doing what I have mentioned before about trying to rewrite history. You are now trying to make out that in your mind Calzaghe/Roy was a foregone conclusion when it was YOU who picked Roy to beat Calzaghe.
This is Imperial self pwning and trying to rewrite his own posts atsch
Why you are bringing up Ward, Froch and Kessler, I dont know. I dont recall making a pick for Kessler/Ward and didnt make a pick on Froch/Ward as I recall saying I would like to know the location before doing so and dont think I ever did, so why you have said this AGAIN is a mystery. You must be looking for an angle after the way you have been owned and still even here havent found one atsch

 

Hello Dave.
Good to see you gracing the ESB pages again and I will have a look through those channels

 

He hasnt watched it Joe. Many on here havent but they know the result and that is all that matters to them in their failed debate

 

I didn't have a problem with the decision but I have seen people make a decent case a while back for Dariusz winning. Regardless, prime for prime I feel DM was on another level than Gonzalez. Even though I admit to using thar fight to argue my points in the past

 

Long time mate, If your on twitter add me https://twitter.com/Dave_Boxing_Fan

 

Staminakills,

That's a huge understatement.

That's true, but you can put forward honest opinions that's based on logic.

Also, we can put forward actual evidence of Roy wanting to fight big fights.

Glen Johnson?

Did Roy not beat fighters who were better than him, or who had equal ability?

He wasn't gifted the win over Tarver at all.

Go back and watch the fight, and look how despondent Tarver was when Buddy McGirt was demanding to know why his instructions weren't being carried out.

You're a bit of a joker aren't you, with the nonsense that you write.

Roy was 35 when he lost to Tarver, and he'd had 50 fights, across 5 weight classes, that included going up to HW and back.

Yet you're telling me that he had to beat Tarver in the rematch to convince you he was a great fighter?

So if he'd have beaten him, you'd have given him his dues, but because he didn't, you won't?

Tarver beat him fair and square in the rematch. No excuses. It was a hell of a shot. But had Roy not already proven that he was a great fighter before that point?

You're referring to Lou Del Valle. He was a decent fighter but nothing more.

Yes, he caught him with a good shot to the temple, but Roy's right foot slipped beneath him due to the ring surface being wet. The referee asked for a towel on 2/3 occasions before the knockdown to try and keep it dry. It made the knockdown look dramatic. Check it out and watch the slowmo from the overhead camera angle and you'll see it. I don't think he'd have gone down had his right foot not slipped.

But is it really such a big deal? It's boxing. He was caught, he went down. It happens.

Kovalev has also been on the deck.

Almost losing??

And here's where you badly let yourself down.

No real boxing skill? Oh dear.

You're all over the place.

You don't think Roy was ever a great fighter, yet you think GG and Kov are?

Right.

What were you saying about the value of a persons opinion?

Your posts are truly baffling.

Roy was much faster than both Kov and GG. He was more elusive. He had more variation, and he also possessed one punch knockout power in either hand. Not forgetting of course, that as yet, he's far more proven.

Roy beat: Hopkins, Malinga, Toney, Griffin, Hill, Johnson, Harding, Woods, Ruiz and Tarver etc.

GG's beaten: Geale, Murray, Macklin, Stevens, Monroe and Rubio etc.

Kov's beaten: Hopkins, (at 50) Pascal, Cleverly, Agnew, Mohammedi, Caparello and Campillo etc.

Yet despite everything that's written above, you're saying that anyone who'd have favoured Roy, wants their head examining?

Okay.

:nut



I'll leave you with this:

https://vk.com/doc120421579_253528094?hash=1fee9bf218897244f8&dl=448994860ba2d4739f

 

Begging for the finish?

A C level fighter?

Wow!

I'm confused.

Have GG and Kov fought guys who I'm not aware of?

If Griffin was a C level fighter, than GG has a truly awful resume.

It's absolutely hilarious that you keep criticising Roy's career, while at the same time getting a hard on for GG and Kov who've done hardly anything at this point.

 

Is this the best you can muster up as a reply?

Seriously?

This is 10 x weaker than Roy's chin.

I've shredded your posts, and then you've returned 2 weeks later with this?

This is a new low for you Joseph.

 

"A better balanced fighter than what he was against Roid Jones"

Your hate for Roy is on Rico's level.

 

Keep the hate flowing.

 

They were shattered?

Shattered by who Einstein?

I didn't attempt to reply?

Well I wonder why that was?


On this current thread (page 10) I replied to FIVE of your posts.

What did I get back as a reply?

The following:

You're completely incapable of having a real debate.

Below is how you debate:

Hurl around insults, talk nonsense and then disappear. Then you return weeks later, sometimes months later, then hurl around insults, talk nonsense and then disappear again.

That is all you do on a continous loop time and again.

You are a terrible poster.


Back on topic, nobody has shattered the following links, videos and book excerpts:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...ved=0ahUKEwjhvZ6lhJTKAhXDXRoKHVw6B1sQ6AEIIzAB

http://youtu.be/4TPjvtASn0c

http://ringsidereport.com/?p=2112

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/stories/2002-07-10-jones-hopkins.htm


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