Finally saw Kessler vs. Sartison

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  1. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    First and foremost, another dominating win over a better than expected opponent. It was a good fight because it wasn't brutally one sided, and sartison was in there giving his best.

    Ok, first round is hard to score for me. I first thought that because Sartison wobbled Kessler he should automatically get the round.....but that was really all he did. Kessler was controlling the action and outlanding for all of the round except that one big punch.

    I had kessler CLEARLY winning nearly every round. A case could be made for Sartison in rnd 5 and 7, but its a bit of a stretch. Despite the outcome Sartison is pretty good and has a good chin. Kessler landed a huge uppercut in round 6, would've hurt a lot of other boxers for sure.

    From round eight onwards, Sartison gassed and Kessler turned it on, even landing a six punch combo in round nine.

    But despite the great win, Kessler didn't seem as sharp as usual. He looked a tad more sluggish and predictable, and also took a lot more punches than i've seen in the past (cept Calzaghe fight). It made me think that if Sartison had just a bit more speed and power, he could've given Kess a hard fight. Regardless, he put on a really good showing and hopefully regained confidence and lost ring rust.

    Oh by the way I still pick him to beat Pavlik, I think most of Sartisons success (if youd call it that) was because of his unorthodox style, movement and punch angles. Pavlik is much more predictable, which I think favours Kesslers style.
     
  2. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I haven't seen the fight. What's your opinion, considering Kessler got wobbled by a questionable challenger (certainly not a top SMW) and took a lot of shots, how would he stand up to the offensive onslaught of a Pavlik or a very clever yet powerful fighter like Abraham?
     
  3. TFFP

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    But he didn't 'struggle' at all

    He won every round, and brutally destroyed him towards the end. He wasn't at his peak level like Andrade, a bit slower, and his reflexes weren't so good. Also his timing at the beginning. But you can attribute most of this to ring rust

    Also, he wasn't really hurt. Slightly off balance, it looked worse than it was.
     
  4. anderslundgaard

    anderslundgaard Member Full Member

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    I was very surprised (and worried) to see Kessler wobble so badly. That's the first time I've seen him hurt so bad. On the positive side, Kessler was really fast at recuperating, so he probably wasn't badly hurt (as his backwards stumble might suggest).

    But from then on, he was pretty dominant, even though I gotta agree with Clearly Cool, he got hit a little bit too much in my opinion.

    Also, Sartison was a lot better than most of us fans expected, and I think he's going to make some noise in the supermiddleweight division. I think he's able to capture a title when Kessler moves to light heavyweight/retires.
     
  5. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    It wasn't very worrying that he got wobbled. Literaly one second later he was back in control like nothing had happened. I think it was more a case of being caught cold chinned.

    Also although he took a lot of shots, it was mostly when he was setting up his own offence and it wasn't anything stupid. Sartison I think is a very capable fighter who throws from odd angles and in combination. Much harder to predict than Pavlik, whom I think Kessler would have more respect for in that regard.

    I think Abraham would be more dangerous to Kessler than Pavlik, based purely on style. A guy like Pavlik, Kessler could out manouver and box, hes got good defense. But Abraham, if he pulls the same sort of stuff as in the Miranda fight, throwing huge haymakers out of nowhere, that would be much more dangerous for Kessler as its harder to see those wider, fast shots.

    Pavlik to beat Abraham though, I think Pavlik would have a field day on AA when he is covering up.
     
  6. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, I wonder what answer Abraham will have for Pavlik's unrelenting style. He banked on Miranda punching himself out and leaving himself open to heavy counters. Pavlik doesn't tire and is a much better boxer than Miranda. You can't underestimate Abraham though. He's very ring smart and throws big shots. Pavlik's defense isn't exactly stellar and if one of those bombs gets through you never know what could happen.
     
  7. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    To be honest I haven't seen a whole lot of Arthur, so there could be heaps more to him than I know.
     
  8. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People tend to make it sound like Kessler was hurt bad - he wasn't by a long shot - as stated above he was back in control two seconds later and won the round by a mile. Sartison got 3-4 good hits in - which about equals Kessler's first 15 seconds of the fight.

    And yes Kessler gets tagged a few times during the fight - fighters do in titlefights - he clearly wins every round against a somewhat underrated opponent (not that he is future WC-material, but a EBU-title at some point would be pretty likely).

    Kessler applied a more riscy style than we are use to - proberbly because of Montoya - and with risk comes counterpunches - especially from a fast fighter like Sartison.

    Kessler did well coming back and showed the world that he hasn't suffered damage from the loss to Calzaghe. He now has a belt and is ready for the next challenge.
     
  9. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    Sartison had a monstrous defence. I've seen guys duck under straight rights, but Sartison actually managed to duck under left jabs in the early rounds!
    The big punch came after ducking clean under a left jab - pretty slick.
     
  10. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    And don't forget that Sartison was a silver medalist at the ametour WC as a junior and German champion as a senior. More impressive than most SMW's amatour careers.
     
  11. thePRESIDENT

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    Sartisan wouldnt go 5 rnds with Pavlik. Kessler is a Pastry who will never fight an elite fighter again.
     
  12. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep and Miranda is a worldbeater! Please replace the broken record!!
     
  13. THN

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  14. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Still think Kessler is scared of Miranda?
     
  15. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Sartison TKO8 Miranda :deal