Finally saw Marquez/Pacquiao II

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigReg, Mar 29, 2008.


  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    My thoughts

    1. Manny Steward needs to be fired. He kept dick riding Pac even when Pac wasn't doing anything. He also kept raving about Pac's right hand in the beginning of the fight, even though Pac was pretty much ineffective with his right hand the entire fight

    2. Not a bad job by Lederman, I didn't agree with him, but he wasn't bad

    3. I scored the fight 114-113 Marquez. However, I don't think there was a robbery. IMO, the key round was round 1. I thought this was the closest round and could've gone either way. If you scored it for Pac, he wins. If you scored it for Marquez, he wins.

    4. Tough loss for Marquez. He was winning round 3 until he ran into that left hook. It was at the end of the round too. Had he not made tha mistake, he would still be champ right now.

    5. Both fighters amazed me. Marquez is a great technical fighter. He was killing Manny with left hooks to the dome and body, he was also painting him with right hands. He showed some good footwork in there as well. Great job by the old man. His downfall, was his inability to avoid Pac's left hands. Otherwise, he was totatlly outclassing Pac. He was keeping Pac at range, he was able to back Pac up at times, and he was also able to effectively counter Pac when Pac decided to let his hands go.

    Pac amazed me by being able to win this fight desite the fact that he was at a stylistic disadvantage, and despite the fact that he was relatively ineffective with the right hand, and kept relying on the same combo over and over again. No way Pac should ever beat a guy like Marquez. However, he was somehow able to pull it off. His defense looks improved, and he doesn't get as far out of position as he used to.

    6. Overall, this was a great fight. Both guys showed alot of heart and determination. I hope there is a third fight within the next year or so.
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Good post Reg.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    GREAT post - agree with you on all accounts
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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  5. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    Agreed with just about everything - i like Manny Steward but he does talk some **** at times
     
  6. whit

    whit Active Member Full Member

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    Excellent Post Reg!:good
     
  7. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Damn good post. Thats why I think both are great fighters.
     
  8. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Marquez was robbed because Pinoy journalists had Marquez winning :deal
     
  9. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    great post..just a thought btw, all 3 judges gave pac the 1st round, including the judge who have marquez winning. So I think its fair to say that it was truly pac's round.
     
  10. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Get the hell off of this thread.
     
  11. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    I am not sure why all the three judges gave it to Pac.. COuld have been more different than that.
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Marquez won the fight. 115-112 IMO.
     
  13. jaycuban

    jaycuban Cubans Do It Better ! Full Member

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    i had marquez winning
     
  14. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really good fight, but I had Marquez winnign
     
  15. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    i had pac winning 114-113. he got rounds 1,3,4,9,10, and 11. round 7 was very close and could've gone to him too but i gave it to jmm instead. very close fight w/ the diff. being the KD.