Finally saw Ward-Kovalev. No robbery!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by wylan911, Nov 30, 2016.


  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Youre chinese, do the math and let us know your results.
     
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  2. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I am and I am really good at math. But I do want to get a pair of those Oakland sunglasses.
     
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  3. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    The judges no doubt wore Oakland Sunglasses for this bout.
     
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  4. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I like it when the OP tried to bring up the 4 criteria of scorings, news flash;
    Kovalev right hand and stiff jabs in every round is Epitomy of clean punching.
    Back-pedalling being control by kov jabs is not defence, it is actually ring generalship on kov part, of course not all punches can land, but it keep ward at bay.
    Leading with your head low and throw at the same time is not effective aggression, so is bang the back of the body of clinching. For kov to tied him up when ward coming in like this is actually ring generalship and defence for kovalev.
    Ward defence most times is to initiate clinch to avoid right hand.

    You can ask hundreds of people who is the ring general in this fight. I rest my case.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Cotto-Malignaggi wasn't close like this fight, man get over it and log off.
     
  6. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I have been following this forum for a while, but hardly comment, I know what your preference is my friend. The cotto mallinaggi reference was a joke but you get my drift.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    What part of close fight that could have gone either way that people like you don't understand? The fight was very close a case can be made both ways, Ward got the nod move on it wasn't a robbery. The fight on the undercard with Hooker fits the definition of a robbery not Kovalev-Ward. Most people here don't know the difference between a close fight and a robbery that's the main problem here.
     
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  8. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kovalev won the fight everyone knows it. He controlled the outside, he nullified Ward on the inside. He landed the harder punches. He landed more punches. He scored the knockdown. Ward was shocked when the decision was announced.
    Kovalev went into his opponents home country. Allowed his opponent an American Referee and all 3 American judges.
    He virtually won all of the first six rounds. 5-1 on my card and the one round for Ward was razor close. That means Kovalev would only need to win one more round to effectively won the fight. That round was the 10th. In addition rounds 9,11,12 were all close I gave Kovalev the 12th as well.
    Fact that the 3 judges awarded Kovalev 1 vote on the last 6 rounds is a joke.
    Those closest to the action including the American Referee picked Kovalev. As did Larry Merchant, Max Kellerman, Harold Lederman and Roy Jones.
    All with a better view and far more expertise than the posters in here.
    Kovalev won
     
  9. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I respect that. For me the fight is close but not close enough to have the winner mixed up. I commend ward for possibly salvaging a draw, what a great comeback. That's what make this fight intriguing from start to finish. But it is a robbery as one person lost 3 belts he shouldn't.
     
  10. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Crap post. Ive been watching Ledermans scorecards since before you were born and sure he is a pro but hes not infallible and often even HBO announcers past and present didnt see eye to eye on his scoring. Sure sometimes ive agreed with him but theres been times hes been way off. This was a close fight and i have no real problem with his scorecard as some rounds were very difficult to score.
     
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  11. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Only its not a bad decision. It was a close fight and im not sure how else to put it to you kov fans that keep yelling about a robbery. I had Kov winning the fight too but i could see where certain rounds couldve gone either way. Thats the thing some of you are failing to understand. I think the most telling stat is if you score the fight based on who landed more punches every round kov wins 114-113 on the kd. the fight was that close. I thought kov won but you guys hollering on like it was a clear win are crazy because it wasnt. IT WAS A CLOSE FIGHT.
     
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  12. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    That is only true if you go by CompuBox and even that is a terrible way to view anything. It doesn't really matter anymore.
     
  13. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    How many right hands did Kov land after round 2? I maybe seen 3 or 4 tops. My point being his right became a non factor as the fight wore on and he was virtually held to only effectively score and land the jab for the majority of the fight. I didn't see hooks, uppercuts, maybe a few body shots that weren't landed in the clinch.

    Ward on the other hand was just as effective if not more in landing the jab plus I saw an assortment of lefts hooks to the head and clear effective body shots that landed plush on Kovalev outside of clinching.

    Also as the fight wore on we all seen Kov get tired and the sting of his shots lesson. He missed a lot of punches and he followed Ward around the ring as he couldn't effectively cut off the ring. I don't know what fight people here were watching but just like your post I see a lot off bull sheet general statements and the **** poor argument that majority of people which consists of clowns like Dan Rafael and Steven A Smith felt Kov won but that doesn't really mean much considering majority of these guys track records.

    I'm interested in seeing your scorecard.
     
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  14. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I gave ward only round 4 in the first half.
    Second half I gave kov round 10 and 12
     
  15. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Having said that I cod have easily score round 4 for kov and give round 9 to kov as well and actually round 12 to ward