Finkel "When Wilder KOs AJ we want millions of people to see it"

Yeah he gave them both barrels and then some. The stuff about the Ali act in particular although he was canny enough to stop short of an outright accusation.

 

I wonder if Wilder ever questions why so he has to pay so many people? He really has been brainwashed. Shelley Finkle is like a cult leader - he's absolutely devoid of personality. Has anyone ever seen him smile?

 

Finkel is like Dr Evil, I bet the meetings are like when Dr Evil tries to negotiate with the world leaders - “unless you pay us....100 trillion dollars”

 

Shelley Finkel has negotiated some of the biggest fights in boxing history and has helped make too many boxers to count millionaires over the last four decades.

Eddie Hearn has made Anthony Joshua a millionaire and routinely gets punked on his own broadcasts by fighters - like Chisora - who say they tricked Hearn into paying them more by just saying they were sick and might not show up.

Big difference.

 

Are you number 2? Bit protective.

 

Yes, just picture everything I type being said with Rob Lowe's voice. (LOL)

Literally.

 

Do me a favour as you're obviously so much more enlightened and I'm just an AJ fanboy scrub with no understanding of how boxing works and tell me, what exactly do you want to see AJ and Hearn do to make the fight for all the marbles and undisputed with Wilder? Tell me what it is that you believe will get the fight over the line?

Also, explain to me please cuz I'm thick, what you believe to be Wilders worth in a fight deal with AJ? Who do you feel is the current stumbling block to the fight being made and what needs to happen to change their mind set?

 

You don't really make a coherent point in my opinion but I'll do my best to address your post.

Just to confirm, Wilder and Fury's appeal now together or apart is bigger than before they fought. AJ's stock over the same period has gone down. Wilder Fury did great at the gate and great on PPV. The fight also has had loads of buzz after the fact and people are clamouring for a rematch. AJ has never generated more revenue globally and isn't about to any time soon. The interest in his next fight is at an all time low at home and abroad.

The only disruptive factor here is DAZN being willing to lose money they get from their "investor" to make the fights. So it's about whether that money is the maximum Wilder believes he can get and whether he thinks it's worth fighting 3 key fights on a loss making promotion in front of far less people.

If Wilder is bringing 400k fans to DAZN as you suggest, where AJ only draws 16,000, why would Wilder accept a flat fee from DAZN? He will be doing all the work in your scenario. If AJ's own broadcast partner realises AJ isn't a draw why would Wilder come to rescue him? AJ claims to not be tied to DAZN so why isn't he fighting on Showtime as he did in the past? If it's about money, Wilder himself probably makes more than $10 per buy when a fan buys a PPV for $70+. Why would he want to bring those fans to DAZN for a flat fee when he believes he can draw those fans and more on Showtime and make much more money for everyone involved?

One thing we know is that DAZN's $40mn is CONSIDERABLY LESS than AJ was offered to fight Wilder last year. AJ was never a draw in the US and his only real argument for a bigger split in the past was that he is a bigger draw in the UK and so the fight must be held there. Now that DAZN don't agree and want the fight in Vegas, AJ has no right to call the shots. So assuming DAZN are giving Wilder less than the 50-50 split he thinks he deserves, why would he take it? That is, unless AJ has inexplicably lowered his asking price for a Wilder fight, even though he's now lost home advantage. If that is the case it shows that DAZN value the fight far lower than Showtime at this point, which again begs the question as to why Wilder would want to be tied to 2 fights with AJ there.

You are one of the minority of people left who would argue that AJ is still the A-Side of this fight in the US. Please factor in the majority opinion before blindly replying again with the same rhetoric you've been pushing since last year.

 

Team wilder have put the breazeale fight on showtime, because they're for the fans, the fans won't have to pay for a dazn subscription for this fight.

Presumably, team wilder want the aj fight on showtime ppv, which would cost the same as 8 months of that subscription they say is bad for the fans...

LOL

 

Two questions:
If the $40mn offer to Wilder is 50-50, why would AJ want to accept it when it's $10mn less than he was offered last year to fight Wilder on Showtime?
Why would AJ be worth more than 50-50 for a fight in the US? FYI, he drew 16,000 in his last fight on DAZN and Wilder is FAR more in demand since he last negotiated with AJ.

No need to answer. You get the point I'm sure.

 

Joshua vs Wlad did 1.5.million buys in the UK and sold 90k tickets.

 

Really Hearn NEEDED to be in that Meeting , theres NO way Skipper knows the ins and outs of the negotiations break down and would have been broken down like this video,theres to much scheming on Finkels side hes manipulating the situation and Hearn would be one step in front of him as always......

Team wilder is not interested in logics they are interested in numbers and would need to be cut off and put into a corner of understanding what Hearn is saying here. Theres a lot more needed to go over on this deal, Skipper showing them figures isn't going to get that done,Team THICK head needs to be really talked to in a way that a 10 year old understands because they have wilder himself in that room, I can see him now big eyes with his head swerving back and forth with the rebuttable in that room ...lol

In reality B. Hearn should have been the front guy next to skipper in that meeting.

 

Well with Hearn at the promotion even the least bothered about boxing will back AJ in the UK, and regardless of AJ being known or not, it's an Undisputed and the first since like 1999, so it will sell anywhere with the right promotion. And Hearns with Haymon is the right promotion, wilder ducking

 

Probably still generated less than Spence-Garcia though didn't it. You have to remember that Matchroom UK ticket prices are many factors below US prices and UK PPVs are dirt cheap too. AJ-Matchroom has never even had a PPV in the US. This has been covered hundreds of times over on this forum.

 

Hearns estimate is on a 100 million dollar fight, you do know that Finkel THINKS the fight is over that right ? lol

The 120 million dollar deal is also Finkels OWN numbers ,he's just pricing Wilder out himself as hes been doing where everytime the fight is ata certain point finkel goes beyond a reasonable negotiation point.

Wilder was probably also giving a Superman cape by Finkel as they left the building and told him to put it on he's invincible now and Wilder did as instructed ....lol