Fitch vs Penn .................

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by thewinfella, Nov 22, 2010.


  1. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Dont see this as a competetive fight to be perfectly honest , i see this fight going the same way as all fitch's fights , and BJ tucking his tail between his legs and moving to 55 again !!!

    I think it looks good in lights , and is a marketable fight from a fans perspective , but as a staunch BJ fan , i dont like this fight ............

    How does it go fella's ???
     
  2. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it may eventually go the way of usual Jon Fitch fights but im betting BJ is highly competitive in maybe the 1st 6-7 minutes. BJ is a wayyy better striker and his takedown defense is good enough to keep it standing until Fitch is able to wear him down. I can see BJ winning clearly in round 1 and Fitch cleary and round 3 with the 2nd being up in the air kinda like a Tito-Belfort or Sherk-Dunham fight where it depends on who won that 2nd.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    "Tucking his tail between his legs" ???? Really man?

    BJ Penn is clearly a natural 155lber, yet he has fought Hughes, GSP, Renzo Gracie and ****ing Machida!

    And then you call yourself a stanch BJ fan...
     
  4. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I don't think BJ can go 15 mins hard with Fitch. Fitch is a grinder who will keep pushing BUT the fight will depend on the first 5 to 7 mins. In that time BJ might be able to put some hurt on him or get to him mentally thus making the second half of the fight more winnable.
     
  5. will4009

    will4009 Active Member Full Member

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    i think this will be hard for bj. he has an advantage in the stand up, but if he gets taken down it will be a long night for him.
     
  6. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People who hate Penn trash talk him too much, but the "He fought Machida at heavyweight!" thing is just as bad. Machida should probably be at 185 and the fact the he was fat enough to weight in at heavy and fight another overweight guy shouldn't really be counted as some huge and serous event. More like and exhibition than anything else.
     
  7. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Why is BJ getting the second best guy in the division so soon? Is it cause BJs getting old? Or does he hope to see a GSP Penn 3 ASAP?
     
  8. zarman

    zarman Guest

    penn will put on a great fight, always does for the first fight!
     
  9. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    This is an interesting fight. I can see numerous outcomes. This post by jimmie is definitely one possibility:
    Fitch has a much better chance of pulling off the strategy Florian attempted against Penn, than Florian did. Florian's goal was to press BJ against the fence and wear him down from there. If Fitch can keep BJ against the fence, he could really force Penn to work hard from there. Penn does not want to run out of steam against an opponent like Fitch. If Penn gasses after 1 round, he'll be lucky to just lose the decision to Fitch.

    If Penn can find a way to keep generating space, as Fitch will certainly want to close the distance, then BJ stands a chance of winning this fight with his hands. Penn's speed and dexterity are well apparent at 155. Penn will look even faster, if given a chance, against larger opponents.
     
  10. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    I like this fight alot because a win puts BJ right in the mix at 170. BJ arguably has the better boxing and jiujitsu - so Fitch's only real advantage is that he is more well rounded than BJ in that he uses kicks from time to time.
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    John Fitch is all wrong for BJ. Fitch will control this fight.
     
  12. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    he has a huge fanbase, because if it makes dollar$, it makes sense.
     
  13. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Im a huge BJ fan , he is the reason i got into MMA and is my inspiration in training in the sport !!! :deal

    Fact is Penn is not the same fighter @70 than he is @55 , and he cant make 55 the right way anymore , he's too big , if there was a 162lb division BJ would be in it , very comfortably !!!!

    Another fact , the WW division is now a lot lot stronger than it was when Penn was fighting in it , animals like John Fitch were not in the UFC back then , its a different ball game , BJ is gonna regret fighting Fitch , John Fitch is a perfectly well rounded fighter who is predominantly a wrestler , a wrestler who'll have no problems in taking Penn down in there fight , BJ's body under performs @170 , we have seen this time and time again , if he gets the weight / speed ratio right he will pose Fitch SOME problems , but not enough to beat him IMO !!!!

    People talk about stand up too ........................... i take it you guys didnt watch Fitch Alves 2 , because if you did you'd know Fitch can stand with anyone in the world , including a boxer of BJ's quality , who i may add , throws no kicks !!!!

    Fitch in a dominant dominant UD for me .................................
     
  14. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Penn vs Shields would of been perfect for everbody , barring Dana White who is clearly not ready for the overhyped Jake Shields to get beat up by a Lightweight just yet !! :deal
     
  15. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    If anybody beats John Fitch apart from GSP , not only would it be classed as a minor miracle , but would instantly give that person (I.E Penn) a title shot .........

    Without doubt