Fitz v The Tar Baby

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mcvey, Apr 24, 2010.


  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    It was never seen as racist in the 90s, how times change...
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Langford would be able to force his style upon Fitzsimmons rather than vice-versa. I do think when pressed Fitzsimmons did att imes have a tendancy to move and reset himself, so you could imagine langford coming in and staying on the inside letting his hands go. Dwight Muhammed Qawi style.
     
  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    True. It's only in the last 10 or so years that "half-caste" has been deemed offensive.
    I predict the current term "mixed race" will certainly go the same way, since it implicitly supposes the concept of racial purity ! (I'd argue we are ALL mixed, a mixture of our parents' seperate genes at the very least).

    The conundrum of political correctness and social constructs.
     
  4. Unforgiven

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    I dont know who'd win out of Fitz and Langford, but I remember reading somewhere that Langford had the utmost respect for Fitzsimmons as the "original" giant-killer power-hitter. Joe Gans thought Fitz was "the master" too !
     
  5. Larryboys

    Larryboys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I do hope those who find half-Caste offensive never come to the midlands, for their sake.
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    And the two best pound for pound punchers ...
     
  7. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Langford by brutal knockout early. Fitz's whole style was to counter one blow at a time. he never fought a man willing to put combinations together. It would force Fitzs to change his whole style around, which was centered around bareknuckle boxing techniques, rather than modern boxing.
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Mr Ketchel certainly had heavyweight ambitions to rival those of Mickey Walker.

    Damn shame he never lived to see them through.
     
  9. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    Totally agree. From the very little footage available of both these guys it seems neither one like fighting off the back foot. Would be one hell of a fight and no way does it go the distance.
     
  10. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is 'half-caste' deemed as offensive these days?? Show's how out of touch I am - everyone uses that term where I come from?? Blacks and whites - nobody seems bothered about that - I'll have to be careful about using that when I'm passing through your town then? :lol: Ridiculous

    Back to the subject - I think Sam beats the tar :lol: out of the blacksmith :lol: - think Sam would put too much pressure on and probably stop him in maybe 10 or 12 rounds :happy
     
  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    The film of Langford is very limited and hard to see up close ... by all accounts he was a fine defensive fighter.
     
  12. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i haven't heard the term for years.i don't know whether its offensive or not but it certainly sounds it.