Fitz vs Sullivan 1897

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  1. Mendoza

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    This match was scheduled but the police intervened!

    Had the police let this one go, how long does it last?
     
  2. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A '97 Sullivan? Cripes.

    Fitz may have registered another fatality.
     
  3. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure Sullivan was old and shot. And yet, Sullivan was a big strong man with a lot of power, and we know power lasts a long time. Keep in mind Fitz was only about 175 pounds, so if a 240-pound Sullivan (he probably weighed that or more) came out and went for broke, who knows what happens when a natural puncher like that nails a smaller man. Odds are Fitz outboxes and stops him, but I think there would be an aura of possibility for Sullivan throughout. Even now, if you put an old George Foreman in there with a 170 pound guy, well, maybe he gets outboxed, but, it only takes one. Heck, as past-it and shot as Tyson is right now, even after all of the substance abuse, you put him in with a guy who is only 175 and I'll bet a lot of people would pay to see it and quite a few would wager on Tyson to score a KO.
     
  4. Seamus

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    I forget if Adam's book has a list of exhibitions that Sullivan fought after the New Orleans Corbett bout but there were quite a few... including facing Corbett a couple weeks later in New York.
     
  5. HerolGee

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    I'd favour prime Sully but alcoholic ageing John has no chance, hes puffing after 60 seconds.
     
  6. janitor

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    This would probably have been a fight too far for the ageing Sullivan, for the reasons given.

    I will just add the caveat that Fitzsimmons would have been easier to catch than Corbett.
     
  7. Boilermaker

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    Then how did he knock out contender Jim McCormack (i think it was him). Years after this proposed bout almost took place?

    Sullivan is a very live chance in this if he train properly and he does have the power to cause an upset. I dont think it will happen, but he does have a decent chance. And champions, particualrly all time great ones, do have a habit of producing special things every now and then.
     
  8. Mendoza

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    I think Fitz stops him inside of four rounds.
     
  9. HerolGee

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    I didn't know about McCormack but an alkie trying to be an athlete, however great they were, is a nigh on impossibility - Hatton, Gascoigne, Higgins were my first thoughts.

    I must read up on Sully more. Hes such a fascinating character (and a grade A twat too).