Fixed Fight series 1.

Well not acting, I do. Some parts a speculative and I clearly distinguished and admitted to it if you read carefully (ie how it made financial sense for the mafia, the betting part etc).

I think you are confusing facts, maybe I did not write clear enough before.

$600 was not low those days for an unknown fighter starting out, it wasn't alot but you have to remember that during a good chunk of the 80s we had double digit inflation that almost hit 18%.

Even at just 10% inflation a year from 1980 to 1990, $600 would be equal to $1500 in 1990 and thats about $5 grand in todays money. That certainly is no chump change. And the pay for boxers went way up since then because this was just before PPV was out for boxing. Now most the money comes from PPV and where someone might be paid 5-8 million for a top fighter like Ali or leonard now it is like 30-40+million. So translating revenue growth that it is about $20 grand. And that is what a guy like Carlos Quintana is making with over 33 fights and just 3 losess when he fought on mayweather cotto undercard.

No one was forced to be a criminal. No one is going to put a gun to your head and make you beat up and old lady. You were given a choice be a criminal or don't become a pro boxer of any significance.

I already gave specific examples. You want more, well Cus d'amato was one of them, alot of people aren't going to like to hear it but he had guys going out at night knocking down whoever they could rob and they would split up the moneys. You don't live under the same roof as a bunch of criminals if you are are an upstanding law abiding guy. Sorry, its like the Hell's Angels, they claim they are just a motorcycle club. Anyone who knows a slither about Hells Angel knows that if they are just a motorcycle club then they must be the most unlucky motorcycle club because it just so happens that almost every member has some kind of a criminal record or involvement. Not every criminal is caught, in fact most of them aren't they only get caught every now and then.

How is it that he reports no income, was in bankruptcy, to the IRS (who hounded him by the way) but manages to make money? Tyson couldn't read, Atlas was a drop out, where was the money coming from. This guy reports no income, is a bankrupt, but is spending money in the thousands monthly (which was why the irs was hounding him this is how the auditors catch criminals on evasion). It was speculated he was homo***ual (he lived with a guy in a 1 bedroom, so make of that what you will doesn't bother me either way).

Angelo Dundee was another one. You see most guys who come in through boxing fissle out. Only a small % of guys are able to stick with the sport for years. I'd say Buster Douglas is the typical like boxer, except most guys never get to that high level he does and fissel out way way sooner. Hence trainer see training you, at least back then, as a important but the real money was getting guys to do crime, that is what pays the bill. Sure you'll get a tyson or a floyd patterson or joe frazier every now and then but this is atypical, and not normal. Lots of guys walk through the gym and show more or equal promise as these guys but then get lazy, get fat, stop showing up, don't want to wake up in the morning to jog, can't handle the diet, or in the 80s get hooked on drugs. Most guys, this was back in the 80s, who walk through that gym door, come in, already have long rap sheets and been to jail a few times, and the trainers view was they are probably going to go commit crimes anyways so they might as well get a cut and do it for me. And the next thing you know, you want to fight for cus d'amato you going to have to go beat up someone who owes money, shakedown some business or go rob someone. And to that I said no thank you.

I already said who paid duran, mobsters at Caesars Palace. Jay Sarno was the front man, down there. That place was run by chicago mobster who were sent down to vegas, Tony Spilotoro seemed to have his hands in alot **** at that time but it wasn't him. From what I know, Franky Rosenthal was the one who was involved in paying out the money to Duran. He was the top mafia tie in the casino. He was the one with the history of match fixing, he was one of if not the biggest underground bookie and that was from the 60s. If you wanted to bet millions underground or in one of the 5-6 casinos he was running in vegas he was the go to guy. At the time and long story short they used a teamster pension fund connection to borrow 70 million with the option for another 20, for one of their chicago companies called argent (means money in french) Part of that money went to buy the stardust and shells were moved around through another frontman called Allen Glick and part of it was skimmed off to fix the fight with roberto duran. Allegedly this was why Frank Balistrieri tried to blow up his car. They claim that, that along with other things Rosenthal was doing was ****ing up their business. As to the specific name of the guy who showed up with a suitcase full of money in panama. I can't prove it was Frankie there in Panama, I do know, as much as any reasonable person could know, that he was the one who directed the funds to Duran to throw the fight.


I don't want to spoil part 2, I will go deeply into my encounters with Larry Holmes and how in the early part of his career he was involved in beating down dead beats for money but Richie Giachetti was another guy using boxers to go around and beat down and extort people. A trainer and a boxer can make more in a night from shaking down a strip joint or a ***** house then MOST boxers make in the ring. This don't mean the guy making millions is going to shakedown anyone. This don't mean the hot prospect is going to be boinking a bouncer on the head at your local strip club. What it means is the other 99% of boxers who never see the top 50 rankings or fall out of them , a good chunk of them ARE.

Bernard Hopkins says boxing is run by the mafia, mike tyson says 50 cents watch out because boxing is run by mafia. The top promoter is a guy who got away with killing 2 people and served less than 4 years in jail for it. King has known documented mafia connections. King refused to elaborate in a 1990s senate investigation on corruption in boxing about his connections with major mafia figures. Is that what an innocent man would do? These are people who both had direct dealings with don king for years.

There was another trainer, most people probably never heard of him but he was a contender or champ back in the day, I really don't remember this was like 30 years ago. He was called Slim Jim Robinson, he worked across a few gyms in philly and the north east. I met him when I was being a sparring partner for a fighter he had who needed a taller bigger guy to prep him for a fight. It was decent money. He was one of the trainers who had guys going out at night robbing people. I did not participate in it but I heard the jokes, saw the goods. These guys were criminals. They had a fighter named Mike Rossman, but that wasn't his real name and he lied about his age too. But he was one of Slim Jim's boys and they called him the jew bomber but he wasn't fully jewish. His dad was Italian but they caught him extorting a guy for 1 grand back in 86 , I think it was this was of course after he beat up two cops who pulled him over and he started getting "special treatment". And these are just when he got caught, one would think a guy who actually was a lhw champion wouldn't need to beat down guys for loan sharks. But when a loan shark if offering $300 to beat a guy into giving you money (more like several) who owes him a grand. And this is 1980s money so its more like being offered two thousand of dollars in 2013 money.

There was another trainer called Peter Brosky, he was running a gym in new york, back then it was called the westbury boxing club, I doubt it exist anymore. He was another trainer who had guys going out doing crime. There was guy who use to fight back then called Ike Padilla. I knew who he was and it didn't surprise me he ended up in jail a bunch of times. I didn't know it because hell I met alot of guys back in that time, but I crossed a guy who kept in touch with him and let me knew he had a bunch of legal problems.

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COPS KO EX-BOXER WITH EXTORTION-PLOT CHARGES
by KIERAN CROWLEY
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extorted 10 grand in 1 day from a doctor and then came back with a "friend" wanting another 8 grand.

Hmm... slap on the wrist for good money. He has a clear pattern of criminal behaviour how much other doctors you think he shakes down and got away with. Why go get punched in the face when you can just walk in a place and get 10 grand?

 

That funny, people ask me for names, I give names. Of course if I didn't give names Lord Twin and Bukkake would be the first guys to jump in and call bull**** because I won't give any names. So it is a damned if you do, damned if you don't. Don't give names then your full of **** and just making it all up, that is why you aren't naming anyone. Give names then it is slander. Its not slander if it is true and it occured. I'll gladly say this in any court room and I can prove it all. I dear them to sue me, double dear them. They don't want to sue because they don't want the information to be made public and attract more publicity to it because these guys don't want to be looked into. I'll even give them my address, phone number, contact information. They won't because they know it is all true. And unless you were there, the only slander I see in this thread is coming from people calling me names like Lord Twin

 

What you want me to show you a video of roberto duran in a panamanian bank sitting on $31 million. This was 1980s we didn't have camera cellphone recorders. And even if I did, you'd find some way to deny it, claim it was photoshopped or staged or some other lame excuse. Proof is in the pudding. People will believe what they want to believe for the most part. Peoples testimony who were actually there is proof. There are mafia guys moving millions during this time. Show me proof of it, show me pictures of gambino sitting on millions or you are a liar gambino was broke and never did crime or had money.

 

Did I say ALL boxers are bank robbers, where did I say ALL? I never robbed a bank.

Leonard made $100 million almost entirely after the duran fight. His fights earned 2-3 times that. If you don't know that 31m is less than 200-300m. Not counting the money that could be made of the gambling and bookie end then you are probably just skeptical in personality and most areas of your life. So go back and believe that santa clause is real along with the tooth fairy. I don't have to ask your permission, I don't have to question, I know what I saw, I know what I heard, you are a keyboard warrior.