fixed fights...how many can u name...?

I have no doubt Ali-Liston II was fixed.
The proof is in simply watching it.

 

You are confusing opinion with proof.

 

How was that fixed? If there was a fix, Angulo would have taken a dive before his face had a road paver go over it. He had plenty… PLENTY of opportunities to make a convincing dive but rather got a trip to the hospital… I didn't need to see another Mago… and Mago was still in his fight, whereas Perro was not.

 

I believe the Sun rises in the East because I have observed it.
That may be opinion, but it is proof to me.
I saw Liston go down for only the second time in an over 10 year career, hit by a man who was never known for knockdowns.
Not only did he go down but he flopped around on the canvas like a beached whale.

 

Ali was not exactly 'Slapsie Maxie', he could punch and his speed added to the general theory that the punch you do not see, is the one that hurts you most. And that floored a poorly conditioned Liston. Could Sonny get up? Yes and indeed he did! And he continued fighting until a confused Walcott called it off.

The controversy was the inexperienced refereeing, not 'the fight'.

 

A little thing called Pride ****ing with his mind maybe?

For someone with a reputation for ko's What i found alarming was angulos tapping punches all night!

 

He started slow and Canelo started fast. He probably thought Canelo would gas (as I did) but that didn't happen. By the time Angulo put together some rallies it was already the 8th and too late.

So, who all is on the fix? Hunter, Angulo, Weeks? Anyone else? Is the theory that Weeks would look for the first opportunity to stop it? And that Hunter would support this by mentioning he was going to stop it? And Angulo would support it by purposely taking a beating and going to the hospital afterward? That's pretty elaborate, isn't it?

 

Let's talk about the inexperienced refereeing.
Walcott had spent his adult life boxing. He had been mindful of the neutral corner rule in every fight he fought.
How did he suddenly forget about it?
It's like a carpenter not recognizing a saw.
I don't buy the confusion theory. Walcott knew exactly what he was doing. Why did he do it? Why did he stop the fight?

 

I'm including crooked decisions, refereeing, illegal tactics, and outright dives. Dempsey vs Willard is suspicious, although Dempsey was better. Referee Barry seemed to favor Tunney vs Dempsey 2, though Tunney was better. Sharkey vs Carnera 2, Archer vs Griffith, Patterson vs Ellis, Ali vs Liston 1 & 2, Ali vs Jones, Ali vs Young, Ali vs Fraiser 2, Ali vs Norton 2 and 3, Ali vs Shavers, Ali vs Cooper 1 is suspicious, Foreman vs Schultz, Cotton vs Torres (one of the worst robberies), Walker vs Flowers, Foreman vs Briggs, The referee who worked Duran vs Moore was a disgrace, though Duran was better, Holmes vs Spinks 2, Louis vs Walcott 1. I have often wondered about Foreman's KO of Moorer. That "fight" between Ali and that wrestler was a complete farce.

 

If a world class boxer could by default, ref, then why are not more of them doing so? The evidence is they (boxer and ref) are two different skill sets, with much different goals.

 

you got there before me!?

OK if I can't have that one then any fight involving Sven Ottke :fire

 

But that doesn't quite answer it.
Walcott's knowing that Liston had not been counted out isn't a skill set.
It is something he had learned from 23 years in the ring and 71 fights. All of these fights employed the same neutral corner rule as Ali-Liston II.

 

As a fighter, not the ref. The two have different jobs to do. I have worked for years with colleagues who I know their job, but would not have the ability to do it myself. Because I do not have the skills. But thankfully for me, many of my colleagues have not the skills to do my job [phew!].

 

Check the news FBI investigating Golden Boy,this fight in particular.

 

You and I would have been much braver when facing Mike Tyson.