Fizsimmons-Sullivan or Fitz-Maher photo?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by serya, Feb 2, 2019.


  1. serya

    serya New Member Full Member

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    Was thrilled to come across this on Getty, had not seen this before. Labeled "Circa 1906 John L.Sullivan and Bob Fitzsimmons face each other in a bout in aid of charity".

    But thinking about it, "Sullivan" in this photo looks way to slim for that era, if dated correctly, a full year after the photo where he is refereeing the McCormick-Ruhlin fight. Also, he looks way too tall.

    Would seem a better match with the mustache and reddish sunburn on head and neck of a circa 1904 Antekprizering photo where Peter Maher is holding a guy like a weight.

    Thoughts? If not Sullivan or Maher, who is it?

    https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/...ampion-heavyweight-boxers-news-photo/79022893
     
  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Good find, doesn't really look like Maher to me. I'm not sure you can really say from the back though.
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    According to reports from 1906 Sullivan had lost a lot of weight as he had quit drinking and looked quite well. That said, there was an imposter John L. Sullivan the same year touring and the Northeast and doing exhibitions under that name.

    Do you know where this photo might have been taken?
     
  4. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    That's not Sullivan. If you zoom in on the picture, you can make out a mustache. Sullivan's hair was completely white by 1906, the mustache in the picture is clearly not white

    That being said, I dunno if that's Maher
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    A new one for me. It looks like Fitz vs Sullivan to me. You can do a search for multiple fighters. Great website!
     
  6. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The shades in the photo have obviously been darkened and photoshopped (or something similar).
     
  7. serya

    serya New Member Full Member

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    Very interesting re the Sullivan imposter.
    No further information on the location on that page.
     
  8. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I've seen it before and also have no clue.
     
  9. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I remember reading an interview with him in 1906. Sully had been sober for about a year and supposedly looked fit. He was fairly pissed that someone was making money off his name. And there was a Charley Mitchell imposter who teamed up with the Sullivan fake and they did shows to the rubes. To convince the folks that he was the real deal, the Sullivan imposter would drink everything in sight.

    It's a way to make a dollar, I guess.
     
  11. serya

    serya New Member Full Member

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    That's hilarious.
     
  12. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn’t like to have been him if the real John L had caught up with him!