***FLASH SURVEY *** Oleksandr Usyk vs Past Champions (Please Participate)

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm looking for eager participants looking to share their opinion here in the Classic Section.

    Prime version of Usyk vs Prime version of each boxer from the list below. 12 rounds, modern rules. Assume the past champions would have adequate time to adjust, and the luxuries of film study and modern nutrition. Say a couple of months to adjust and a few more nonths for a reasonable modern buildup and training camp. Past champions have the added motivation of an unthinkable payday by modern standards.

    Basically, take each of these names and divide them into 3 GROUPINGS:

    GROUP A - I favor Usyk to beat Boxer X (for example, John L Sullivan)**PLEASE SPECIFCY DEC OR KO
    GROUP B - I view this as a 50-50 pick'em fight that could go either way.
    GROUP C - I favor Boxer X (John L Sullivan) to win against ***PLEASE SPECIFY DEC OR KO

    You do not have to include every boxer. Any boxer that does not appear in one of those 3 categories will officially count as UNDECIDED - a push for the stats.


    Please feel free to ask if you have any questions.

    The List is essentially just a simple list of the generally accepted history of the heavyweight lineage. In the case of 2x heavyweight champions (or 3x with Ali) - [basically Patterson, Ali, Holyfield, Foreman, and Lennox] - just choose the best prime version to go up against what you consider to be the best version of Usyk.


    THE LIST:

    John L Sullivan
    Gentleman Jim Corbett
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    James J Jeffries
    Marvin Hart
    Tommy Burns
    Jack Johnson
    Jess Willard
    Jack Dempsey
    Gene Tunney
    Max Schmeling
    Jack Sharkey
    Primo Carnera
    Max Baer
    Jim Braddock
    Joe Louis
    Ezzard Charles
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Rocky Marciano
    Floyd Patterson*
    Sonny Liston
    Muhammad Ali*
    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman*
    Leon Spinks
    Larry Holmes
    Michael Spinks
    Mike Tyson
    Tokyo Douglas *** (In the case of Buster, you MUST consider the Tokyo Douglas variety)
    Evander Holyfield*
    Riddick Bowe
    Michael Moorer
    Shannon Briggs
    Lennox Lewis*
    Hasim Rahman
    Wladimir Klitschko
    Tyson Fury (PRIME VERSION)
    Tyson Fury (REMATCH)

    Use TWO Tyson Furys. Prime version, but also one that is NOT prime Fury and NOT prime Usyk... but the actual Fury and Usyk rematch for their current age RIGHT NOW. Or December, as it were. Hopefully.
     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Hypothetical List....(with far fewer names for the example)


    GROUP A: I favor USYK against
    Usyk KO Spider Rico
    Usyk KO Tommy Gunn
    Usyk KO Union Cane
    Usyk DEC Mason Dixon

    GROUP B: 50-50
    Ivan Drago 5050
    Rocky Balboa 5050

    GROUP C: I favor the FORMER CHAMPION against Usyk
    Apollo Creed DEC Usyk
    Clubber Lang KO Usyk