Flashback Chavez vs Talor

LOl.... did you even watch the FULL FIGHT????

 

I know that I did because I watched it live and I had Meldrick winning 9 of 12 rounds. He was beat up and he was hurt badly at the end but there were two seconds left, Steele knew this, and he still called it with a man on his feet. Back before Boxing was disgustingly watered down with premature stoppages this fight would have continued simply because Taylor got to his feet. Chavez was a beast and I am a huge fan of his, as well, but he lost this fight and the only thing that changed that was a referee decision that was clearly ill-judged in some capacity.

 

I can respect this... And i watched it live with you, but damn Taylor was OFFICIALLY DONE.... He did win that fight, but I would have called that a night for him too,,,

 

This is what I don't get, how can you say a man deserves the victory when he got battered from pillar to post. Taylor outlanded Chavez no doubt, but he spent time landing fast arm punches, where as Chavez threw full force punches starting from his feet.

Would you feel like a winner if you got beat up and went to the hospital with broken orbital and internal bleeding? Or would you feel like a winner if you spanked your guy, dropped him and walked home?

 

Here we go again. atsch :-(

Taylor

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winning the fight, but lost by TKO when he

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respond to Steele's commands. As someone mentioned earlier, it doesn't matter if there is 2:46 left in the round or :05 left. Plus, I don't know if the "You can't be saved by the bell in any round, including the 12th and final round," rule was in effect in this fight. Bottom line is that Taylor was out on his feet and did not respond. I believe the rules states that if a fighter does not respond to a referee's commands, the ref can stop the bout. It doesn't state that if a fighter is winning he should be given the benefit of the doubt and allowed to continue.

Duva's fat arse is to blame more than anyone. He should not have gotten on the apron and distracted Taylor. He should not have told Taylor that he needed the 12th round. That has to be the worst advice I have ever heard from a trainer during a championship fight.

My final take on this is that JCC may have lost the early battle, but he ended up winning the war.

 

Great Stoppage Taylor was seeing stars and looked really confused. :deal

 

I agree with this. He had clearly been examining Taylor the whole time, and after he went down looking all swollen and rose unsteadily with no answer to his questions, it was not Steele's job to calculate the time it would take for the fight to finish. Irrelevant.

 

He didn't get battered from pillar to post for most of the fight, Meldrick was winning the fight on just about every objective scorecard, until Chavez ramped it up.

It's called the sweet science not the demolition derby.

 

Well the demolition derby ran over the sweet science that night. JCC wasn't even bruised in that fight.

 

I asked for that didn't I.

 

Yes. :yep

All in all, it was a classic.

 

It was a great fight that I was thrilled watching as a young teenager. I remember thinking Taylor got robbed at the time but he really did get beat badly that fight. He was never the same after that, that fight was the end of his prime. Meldrick had the skills to outslick people and avoid punishment all night long, but he loved to brawl and it ended up really costing him.

 

At the end of the day boxing is a fight with some rules and scoring criteria to see who is tougher. Obviously there are a lot of techniques, but I think here in the US aggresive techniques get downplayed a lot, because there is a favoritism for speed or defensive techniques.

Just based on the four scoring criteria it really could be scored either way.
Obviously this should be done round by round, but for simplicity:
clean punching:
- Chavez landed 50% compared to Taylor 38%
- Chavez landed heavier punches
- Taylor landed more punches
I'ma take substance over style
effective aggression:
- Both decided to march forward, I saw Chavez as more effective as Taylor was subtley getting his guts pounded and head knocked back the whole fight.
ring generalship: Both fighters wanted it in the middle of the ring, so definitely a plus for both, but more of a plus for Chavez as this is where he wanted the fight. Taylor's main strength was usually to keep it on the outside.
defense: Could be a victory for either, but Chavez dodged and blocked more punches in total and percentage wise and walked home.

 

I think Chavez deserved win, he ****ed Taylor up, guy had to be hospitalized. Yes, he landed way more punches. Thing is, 3 of his punches were not as damaging as 1 of Chavez's. Taylor tok awful body pounding, his face was busted up, especially inside his mouth. Chavez was fine after bout, Taylor was never same.

 

Taylor was unlikely to be the same after this fight even if he didn't take that much punishment.

Too small, modest-punching, and brawl-happy for 147, a talent-rich division. Too much of a strain to make 140 (according to Taylor).

The fact that he took a horrendous beating physically exacerbated his inevitable decline.