Flashback: How Floyd Ducked Margarito & Cotto

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  1. Critic

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    – who is rumored to be in the process of ducking Shane Mosley – we will take a look back at two articles which illustrate how Floyd Mayweather ducked Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto. Note the common tactic of lying by Floyd/Ellerbe to at first pretend to be interested in the fight, before pulling off the duck…
    Mayweather Malfunctions When Posed With Margarito Questions
    By Scoop Malinowski:
    (This article was originally posted in October of 2006.)
    For those boxing fans who refused to believe that Floyd Mayweather could possibly be afraid of Antonio Margarito, I offer you this exchange during the recent Floyd Mayweather conference call:
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    (USA Today): What do you think about Bob Arum calling you, to keep continuously saying that you’re ducking Antonio Margarito
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    I mean, Bob Arum is the type of guy, you know, I mean he’s grumpy. He’s an old lady’s grumpy, you know. But, I mean I’m just going to tell Bob, you know, thanks for every, you know thanks for our relationship. I mean in the past thanks for everything you done for me, you know, I appreciate you.
    I won’t have nothing bad to say about you; I wish you nothing but the best of luck in the future and I wish Todd DuBoef and all of DuBoefs and the whole Arum family good luck but as, I’m with Goossen Tutor and me and Dan’s going to take it to the next level. I mean he’s, I mean, man, that’s the real promoter.
    When I was with Dan and I went back and done another fight with Bob, you didn’t see Dan bad-talk me or trash talk me. I mean Bob Arum has made a lot of money off me; I made a lot of money over there. I mean why would you, I mean a deal, some day you talk about us, it’s about being positive but then, you never see me talk about negative things and then once I started my training camp for this fight he told me I can use the Top Rank boxing gym and then in between, and if you don’t (inaudible), he told me that he’d kick me out of his boxing gym so you want me to fight your fighter but you don’t want me to work in your boxing gym. So, it’s obvious that you don’t want the fight.
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    So you’re no longer working at Top Rank Gym? Hello?
    DAN GOOSSEN: No, he’s not, Chuck.
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    Wait, Bob Arum would have, Dan can make Bob Arum an offer. Bob Arum can never make me an offer but Dan can make him an offer.
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    All right. All right.
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    But you got to realize this. I’m an A level; I’m an A level opponent, OK? Oscar de la Hoya’s an A level; Floyd Mayweather’s an A level. I mean Margarito is a, he got, he got D level fighters. He had, so Bob Arum, he got D level fighters. You know without, you know without, be honest without Floyd Mayweather or Oscar de la Hoya, I mean what is Top Rank, honestly?
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    All right. So Margarito is not on your radar at all?
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    I’m not; you know I’m looking for a household name. I mean he’s a household; we need two household names.
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    OK. All right, Floyd. Appreciate it, man.
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    No, come on. We got to realize this. 25,000 homes? If that. And then that’s, and that’s given them the benefit of the doubt. And I mean he’s supposed to be a Hispanic fighter with Hispanic fans. So, I mean, come on, man.
    Ahem. Now consider what Floyd Mayweather said just a few moments earlier, when he was defending his choice of handpicking the unheralded Henry Bruseles as an opponent… “I mean, the fight with Henry Bruseles – somebody had to give him a chance. You know, everybody gives – I mean, how will we ever know how good a person is till you give them a chance? Somebody had to give him that chance, so I gave him that chance.”
    Which begs the question: Why won’t generous Floyd give or even verbally commit or promise to give Antonio Margarito any chances to show the world how good he is???
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    After witnessing all the double talk of the last 8 months, the $8 million offer three itmes, this exchange and all those You Tube videos of Floyd stuttering almost incoherently when forced to talk about Margarito, I believe this is undeniable proof that Floyd is actually afraid of Margarito, he is actually struck by fear. Only rarely have you seen such blaringly obvious clues of fear seep out of the facade of bravado of a top pro fighter (Floyd Patterson vs. Sonny Liston, Tommy Burns vs. Jack Johnson, Morrade Hakkar vs. Bernard Hopkins, Tito Ortiz vs. Chuck Liddell, Joe Gatti vs. Terry Norris, Michael Spinks vs. Mike Tyson, etc.). There is no doubt now, Margarito is indeed Floyd’s BOGEYMAN.
    The mere thought of Margarito alters Floyd’s thought and speech patterns. He makes little sense whenever he opens his mouth about Margarito. I completely believe the fight has already been determined. Floyd has been conquered by the Margarito mystique, the Margarito smile of 100% (GENUINE not MANUFACTURED) confidence, the Margarito arsenal of non-stop pressure and relentless savagry. The supposedly great Floyd Mayweather is incapable of how to effectively deal with issue of Margarito out of the ring and so it will transfer to confusion and indecision inside the ring, as it always does. IT ALWAYS DOES. It appears that Floyd’s mind does not function properly when it has to deal with the ghost of Margarito. Just wait and see what happens when the real beast is attacking him.
    Boxing will have a new superstar from Mexico.
    That is, if Floyd and the boxing powers-that-be ever give Margarito the chance to prove himself in a major marquee fight.
     
  2. Silvermags

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    ^ great post! I WONDER WHAT WILL PBF say when ask about fighting MOSLEY?!
    We all know MOSLEY WANTS to fight PBF, I'm not so sure if PBF is interested to fight MOSLEY at all!!!!!

    If PBF and Mosley fight! Then that's going to be an interesting fight!
     
  3. namcap

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    Which begs the question: Why won’t generous Floyd give or even verbally commit or promise to give Antonio Margarito any chances to show the world how good he is???

    C O W A R D
     
  4. SexualPanda

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    I just can't wait to see what excuse Mayweather comes up with to avoid fighting Mosley. If he takes the fight I will give him all the props in the world, but as I have said many times, I will believe it when I see it.

    The latest I have heard is for "personal reasons"??? WTF?
     
  5. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    personal reasons in regard to the mosley fight not happening?
     
  6. BOSTONREDSOX

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    good post.floyds a babbling idiot
    the dudes dumber than a stump
     
  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Where did you hear this?
     
  8. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even if Floyd signs a fight with Mosley, don't count on it happening unless you're watching it already. You very well know what Floyd is capable of doing.

    - Fake an injury that can cancel a fight
    - Comes in overweight at the weigh-in that can cancel the fight

    You can never trust Floyd.
     
  9. Sweet Jones

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    From ESPN:

    Until someone wants to explain why Bob Arum would offer less guaranteed money for what most people would have considered the bigger fights at the time (Hatton, Cotto), then this 'ducking' talk should cease.
     
  10. KMSTAR

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    As much as I am not a Floyd fan, I see no reason why he would have ducked the crude slugger Margarito. Frankly Baldomir and Margarito = same s%#t, except Baldomir had done MORE at the time having just come off of victories over ZAB JUDAH and ARTURO GATTI and possessing the lineal Welterweight championship. Margarito had not done a damn thing but pose as the "Most Feared Man in Boxing". Oh yeah that and fight some dude named Manuel Gomez (???) and win a close decision over Joshua Clottey (and I was there and he was losing that fight until the late rounds).
     
  11. Boom_Boom

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    The article was made in Oct. 2006, Cotto didnt become a big name until after the Judah fight and the Hatton fight lost alot of its swagger because of Collazo. Margarito/Mayweather was the biggest fight in demand for 2006.
     
  12. 1lehudson

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    What I dont get is why the *******s are sooo ****ing worried about Floyd??? Is it FEAR???

    Everyone knows that Margo could have fought Floyd in place of Judah he choose instead to fight Gomez. Then *******s refute the offer to Cotto has coming in 2006 which is dumb as ****, but what do you expect from *******s??? Cotto won his first title in 2004 and defended it 5 times by the time that Floyd asked Arum to make the fight.

    Common sense isnt a strong suit from *******s, only the blind leading the blind:good
     
  13. Sweet Jones

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    First, the article is from April 2006, not October.

    Second, the 'buzz' for Mayweather to fight Cotto or Hatton started back in 2005, especially from the PBF haters claiming he 'ducked' them to move up to Welterweight.

    Lastly, the only 'demand' for Mayweather-Margarito came from Bob Arum and Mayweather haters. Noboday gave a sh!t about Margarito. If they did, then where was the 'demand' for Margo to fight Judah, Spinks, or any of the other big names at Welter before Mayweather moved into the division?
     
  14. NeckBreaknAiken

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    Yeah... **** Margarito!



    He wasn't **** back then.
     
  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I never understood the Margarito thing either. I still think it's funny floyd turned down 8million to fight him though.