Flashback: How Floyd Ducked Margarito & Cotto

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  1. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Difference is Cotto gets hit to much, Mayweather doesn't. Cotto was outboxing Margo by a wide wide wide margin. But again he gets hit to much, he can't box on the bike like Mayweather can, he doesn't have the defense of Mayweather, nor the hand speed or the relexes or quickness, agility. Add in the plaster paris, the fact that Cotto cuts very easily and you get the Cotto-Margo fight which overrated Margo.

    Cotto tried to fight on the bike which isn't his style either, he is usually the one doing the pressing. But again once Cotto realizes that he can't overpower an opponent he isn't the same fighter. He looked great posing his will vs Quintana, Malinaggi, Judah. Got TKOd vs Margo and Pac, and stole one from Mosley since Mosley lacked the footwork and couldn't stop the jab.
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    You are mistaken there was absolutely ZERO buzz about a Cotto/Mayweather fight back in 2005. Cotto's campaign at 140 was on the down low to the mainstream, championship title holder or not, everyone who followed the sport knew Cotto was still a working project that wasnt finished yet. However Hatton/PBF was indeed the biggest fight in demand in 2005 right after the Tszyu fight. I cant really explaing the Hatton/PBF offer being so low if it happened before the Collazo fight, but the fact was the only threat to Floyd at welter after beating Zab Judah was only Margarito. The demand was insane to just say only Arum wanted it, it the was something like 65% of the fans wanted Margo, 20% wanted Baldomir, 10% wanted Mosley and 5% wanted Spinks. Margo/PBF was the biggest fight in demand by far for 2006.
     
  3. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only haters think Mayweather ducked these guys. Cotto wanted no part of Mayweather at 140. Margarito is a pathetic, no skilled disgraced cheater. Mayweather passed him up for the same money and the lineal championship along with the DLH fight which was the richest fight in boxing history.
     
  4. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather had more to gain from fighting Baldo though, he held the WBC which had more prestige and Judah and Gatti were two of the top 140 and 147 pders. Which both of them defeated. So why is fear the only conclusion people can come up with.

    Why aren't the other viewpoints possible. Baldo defeated Judah and Gatti propelling him as well as the fact that he held the WBC. Plus the fact that he was in the interview with Brian Kenny who was ripping him for fighting Judah over Baldomir. Plus the fact that Baldomir was already in his 30s while Margo was in his 20s. Why not cash in on Baldo first while he was hot with the viewpoint of fighting Margo down the road.
     
  5. Critic

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    :deal
     
  6. Farmboxer

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    Void ducked Margarito, Cotto, Mosely, Williams and Pac.
     
  7. Jacory Harris

    Jacory Harris I'm a gorilla I'm a dawg! Full Member

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    FACT: Cotto had his chance to fight Floyd a few years back but didn’t take it because Arum and Cotto's team said he was too green.
     
  8. Farmboxer

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    Void avoids real welterweights.
     
  9. Jacory Harris

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    Roid avoids real drug tests.
     
  10. Boom_Boom

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    Thats not what we are debating about infact I was one of the minority who felt that PBF should fight Baldo instead of Margo, my problem is that PBF went on to fight Zab after he just lost to Baldo when he should of just fought Baldo instead. Also there was indeed a high demand from the public to see Margo/PBF, ESPN was all over it like crazy since Margo had been on their telecast quite a few times, to say only Arum wanted it to happen is ludicrous.
     
  11. Jaguar

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    If we're talking about these guys being A level and "name" fighters, once upon a time must mean over a period of 3 years. In 2 of those years Floyd was retired. Floyd was busy with Hatton when PW beat Margo. Prior to that win, PW's biggest name was Sharmba Mitchell. So you can remove PW from your list.

    Shane had toothgate. Cotto wasn't ready, and the Margo argument was already dissected. Thank you, drive thru.
     
  12. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Baldo would fight Mayweather and even said so. They wanted a defence first. Problem that too many people ignore is the FACT that Margo was offered the date once Judah lost to baldo and turned it down. It wasnt until Floyd started talks with Oscar that Arum came in with the 6 million offer that later became 7 then 8 million.

    People cant change what happened you can only ignore the parts that you would like those to forget. Truth is Floyd tried to fight both Cotto, and Margo Arum wouldnt allow it. Just as Floyd tried to fight Pac with the same result. Larry Marchant chairman of the broad of the hate floyd party even said in the build up to Judah Mayweather that Margo was offered the date, and wanted to instead fight Gomez on a lame ass PPV. Just as he fought Santos instead of Mosley some years before that.

    At the end of the day NONE of this changes the FACT that Floyd tried to fight Pac, and all the selective memory about what happened in the past isnt going to make those that KNOW Pac didnt want the fight change thier position. You views are only shared with those that feel the same way, while some that felt Floyd was holding up the fight have later changed thier minds.
     
  13. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    fact is floyd retired when he could have fought the best line up of welterweight after he fought hatton. What was it again? i won't let boxing (meaning margo, or williams, mosley, or cotto) retire me, i'll retire from boxing (meaning margo, or williams, mosley, or cotto) lol.

    you ducked them floyd, only fools can't see
     
  14. Boom_Boom

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    I kindly ask you for a source on this please, everything else you've said is irrelevant with scrotum licking and donut punching.
     
  15. ferventguy19

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    floyd is the most feared fighter of this generation, everybody avoid and ducking this fearless warrior, it's a damn shame

    when will this so called 'top fighters' step up and fight the best fighter of this era?