Flavor Of The Month: Oscar Bonavena. How about Bonavena vs Ken Norton, both prime.

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Flavor Of The Month: Oscar Bonavena. How about Bonavena vs Ken Norton, both prime. Who takes it and why?
     
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  2. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I'm not much of a Norton believer. The nuances of Norton's defense would be lost on someone like Bonavena. He would just push his way through bull-in-a-china-shop style. I say that Ringo takes this one via a very hard fought decision
     
  3. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I really think that Oscar Ringo Bonavena backs up Ken Norton, goes to the body, and roughs him up. Ringo beats Norton's head and body like a drum. Bonavena by a late stoppage.
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What about Norton's victories over Quarry ? And the tough rugged Cobb ?

    I'm not saying your wrong necessarily, I would just like your thoughts on those performances.
     
  5. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Norton.

    Big, tough, strong as a bull. On top of that highly skilled technician. Oscar's main advantage is his great chin (compared to Norton's average/decent) but Kenny is a shelf higher in my book.
     
  6. Fergy

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    Seem to recall reading, this fight was actually going to take place. Just not long before Ringo got killed.
    Now if thet have gone ahead, I go for Kenny.
    Ringo was slipping by then and I see Norton roughing him up and stopping him in around 10 rounds.
     
  7. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Ringo, beats Mandingo like a Drum (the movie sequel)?

    Kidding.

    Actually, a tough fight for Ken. If Ringo wins it has to be by stoppage, not a UD imo.

    Anybody who doesn’t put Ken out generally catches hell.

    Some shaky moments but I think Ken has the power and sufficient margin in skill advantage to overcome Oscar and perhaps have Bonavena himself hanging on, if not out, toward the end.
     
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  8. Richard M Murrieta

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    Oscar Ringo Bonavena was having too much fun at the houses of ill repute, not training and getting rusty, his skills were by then wasting away. A fight when both were prime, now that's a fight.
     
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Definitely a different fight Richard.
    That one I'm kind of leaning toward s Oscar, but only just.
     
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  11. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Jerry Quarry on March 24 1975 was on the downward slide in his career which began on May 7 1965. Randall Tex Cobb's best performance was coming off of a 15 round decision loss to WBC Champion Larry Holmes on Nov 26 1982. What if Norton had faced a prime Quarry of 1969? Not to make excuses for anyone, but it's funny when other fighters beat has been's, then they gloat. I usually dismiss those wins, it's like Berbick defeating Muhammad Ali in 1981, in 1967 Trevor could have not even have carried Ali's championship belt. It is also like assaulting an elderly person just to take a few bucks. No credibility in that fight for Ken Norton, who was he going to fight next at that time? Joe Louis, he was still alive. Lol.
     
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  12. Stevie G

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    I pick Norton.

    Bonavena was a strong aggressive roughouse type of fighter who gave the world's best problems. He was a solid puncher but not an especially hard one,and this is the main reason as to why I don't think he would beat Ken. Norton was as strong as Oscar with more skill. I see a very lively bout culminating in a clear,albeit hard fought,unanimous decision for Ken.
     
  13. Tockah

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    Prime for prime, i lean toward Ken. He was just better conditioned and I think he could hang in there and take it on points. But @Fogger makes a good point and i think 'nuance' is the perfect way to describe Bonavena's disregard for Ken's technicality. Bonavena would not give a damn... he would just try and beat the devil out of Norton. Though I think if Futch was cornering Norton, the game plan would be immaculate and Ken was phenomenal in his execution of tactics and this is how I see Ken winning.

    In these fantasy match ups I wish we gave greater consideration to a fighters corner. It has a tremendous impact. Even if it is just Dundee reminding Ali that he needs to stick and move, or Futch's advice to a blind Frazier in Manila to stand several inches back which ended up backfiring. The corner is a vital component of success.
     
  14. klompton2

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    Bonavena would have run the overrated Norton ragged.
     
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  15. catchwtboxing

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    Quarry was at the end.

    I may be wrong, but the Cobb fight may have been after Tex had his arm busted defending a friend in a bar fight. His power was never the same after that.