Flip Hrgovic gets hyped to high heaven but not Nathan Gorman?

You got one thing right, you need a break and while you're at it, get your eyes checked.

I noticed you were very careful not to mention his best stuff, such as very fast feet, being 6'6" tall with what looks like an 81" reach, having the best battle-tested chin in the amateur in years, and throwing punches with accuracy, fluidity, variety and power.

Hrgovic is a warrior, not afraid to mix it, as he knows he can take a punch, but the other guy in many cases can not. He has never been down, hurt or cut with gloves on.

I think you are confusing being aggressive and active with being countered every once in a while. If you know anything about boxing, Sugar Ray Robinson, considered the best pound for pound fighter in history by many got hit a lot because he was active and aggressive. See my point? Likely not.

Hrgovic is not a safety type. I agree he needs to pull his jab back a bit quicker and move his head more often from time to time, but he engages quickly hits and moves to a different area of the ring very quickly. Plus he hits pretty hard. The man is being fast-tracked.

Sure, heavyweight's are good counter punchers. Keep thinking that! Very few are, and the ones who tend to be good at it usually are not punchers and are much smaller...too small and will be zoned at the end of a larger skilled man's punches. Or okay you can win the round and hit me twice as much, but I'm going to counter you once and some bad judge or misinformed fan will think its a major issue. That was Little strategy. Cover up, survive, counter if I can. He gave effort that night and lasted but four rounds.

One more question, you don't actually think 210-215pound guys with less than a 75" reach can reach the top today, do you? Only if they hit like Mike Tyson will they have a chance. And few do.

 

Forget that, Wlad has high praise for Hrgovic when he was in his camp as an amateur.

 

I disagree. Hrgovic hit Turner at will at least 3-4 times in their fight and couldn't even slightly stun him. Hgrovic is very good all-around fighter, but his power is far from great. It's slightly above average at best.

 

Hrgovic started early which is more beneficial to a boxer than starting late like Joyce did. They both had the same experience despite their age gap , so the fight was fought on an even playing field.

If they fought now , I'd take Joyce to win wider than he did in the Wbss since his pressure and workrate is more relentlessness and controlled than what it was as an amateur and thats what gave him the beating of Hrgovic.
The only way he can beat Joyce his by keeping him at the end of his jab or by knocking him out. More likely that not he gets outworked again..

Id favor Hrgovic over Gorman though.

 

I'd say good to very good. Not even Wlad stopped all his guys early.

 

Those statements don't add up.

 

It's too early to say where Hrgovic or Gorman will go. If Hrgovic has an iron chin that will take him very far as he has the basic fundamentals down to a fine art. He does seem a tad predictable from watching him, though.

The division is pretty weak so from watching him i could see him winning or being a top contender for a world title. I think even Gorman could be a world title contender the way things are at the moment. At least on a Joseph Parker - Andy Ruiz type level of contender.

I mean Manuel Charr is the regular WBA belt holder. He's not some master boxer. There's only like two guys who are above everyone else. And then it's Ortiz and Povetkin just below. All the other guys are pretty much in close proximity of other in terms of skill.

I'd say Whyte, Parker, Joyce, Dubois, Hrgovic, Gorman, Kownacki, Ruiz, Brezeale, Miller are all relatively close in terms of level even including the prospects.

 

It's a BS statement. Because it implies that Boystov was a hypejob who never had strong potential. Boystov was a great talent as anyone with an eye for the sport can clearly see. But like others that came before him drinking and drugs squashed that potential.

 

He is far better than Nick Webb.

Trust me it’s not even a debate.

 

Webb is getting stopped and soon.