Floyd Admits That He Ducked Antonio Margarito Because God/Something Told Him To...

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    1. You still haven't told us how he became so severely dehydrated.

    2. You like to quote guidelines and procedures, yet Floyd didn't follow them.

    3. You have slandered Manny on here for years despite there being zero evidence of any wrongdoing.
     
  2. tinman

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    Pressure fighters are stylistically advantaged over pure boxers. Frazier gave Ali hell, but was no match for Foreman. Castillo gave Floyd hell, but was knocked out by a lesser fighter named Diego Corrales and other no name Mexican cans in his prime. Salido beat an inexperienced Lomachenko, but then Loma in his next fight beat the top 126 pounder in the world. Duran beat Ray Leonard, but then got absolutely crushed by a slugger Tommy Hearns.

    It goes like this.

    Pressure has advantage over boxer.
    Boxer has advantage over slugger.
    Slugger has advantage over pressure.

    Not all fighters fit neatly into 1 style for example. Gennady Golovkin, Ray Leonard and Marco Antonio Barrera seem to be a blend of all 3 styles, but in some ways a jack of all trades is master of none.

    But in this case, Floyd is a pure boxer, Williams and Margarito are pressure fighters. The style advantage is clear.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yeah, that's where the Rock in his name comes from.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Hearns was a slugger? Have you watched Hearns????
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Bodied
     
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  6. tinman

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    Boxer-Puncher to be more specific, but he played the role of slugger against Duran.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

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    Nah, he tee'd him up with the jab and feinted with the left in order to set up his right hand, he'd also level change and dart in and out. The first round he boxed and pounced, then in the 2nd round it was basically an endless combination until Durán was asleep.

    Either way, Hearns had FAR too much skill to be classed as a slugger, imo.
     
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  8. tinman

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    Like I said there is overlapping in style for many fighters. Hearns had elements of slugger and boxer. He doesn't KO Duran that easy without having some slugger DNA.
     
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  9. Pimp C

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    No it isn't because it doesn't indicate what type of pressure you're bringing and all pressure fighters aren't equal both Williams and Margo bring uneducated pressure with no jab no real plan of attack other than throwing punches no subtle defense **** footwork nor do they really cut the ring off and go to the body effectively. They both rely on size stamina workrate and chin to overwhelm and wear guys down that's it. Uneducated pressure like the type they bring is the easily dealt with by PBF because they're flawed and don't employ a jab in order to keep PBF honest and disrupt his rhythm if you don't have a jab you don't have a prayer in hell of beating PBF.:deal: If they brought educated pressure like JLC who had a real plan who worked behind the jab with subtle defense cut the ring to get inside to work the body and stay dedicated to it and could fight in a phone booth for 12 rounds you may have a point but they don't. They both were basic nothing complicated about their approach and both could be very easily outboxed. In with regards to Margo, he couldn't be more tailromade for PBF and gets a boxing lesson.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I've gone over this time and time again. Nothing I say will change your opinion and nothing you say will change mine.
     
  11. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All you ever say is he was cleared. How did Floyd get so dehydrated a week before when he was at weight, and NOT sparring that last week. HOW?!?
     
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  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I've said way more than that and have gone on and on in various threads about this for years, do a search. BTW unless you're the Lance from Alaska how do you know me alt?
     
  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's me. I don't use the email from my Lance99 account anymore. Anyway, I'm not gonna search. I've read what you've said on it. and you haven't ever really said anything. Just like now. You just excuse it and say he was given a pass...
     
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  14. Loudon

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    You are the one who came in with a sarcastic comment which was unnecessary

    I've not been claiming that Floyd was big. I only claimed that you couldn't say that he was physically smaller than a guy like Ricky Hatton, just on the basis of Hatton weighing a few pounds more.

    If you wanted to say that Floyd gave up weight in many of his fights, I've no argument against that at all.
     
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  15. Loudon

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    You're so defensive.

    Just because someone criticises, questions, or makes a reference to Floyd's resume or his attributes, that does not make them a hater.

    If I were you, I'd quit with the whole reach issue. Because you use it when it suits your argument/agenda, as I recently proved on a previous thread.

    It was very relevant when you were debating with George regarding a fantasy fight between Floyd and Roberto Duran.
     
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