Floyd Admits That He Ducked Antonio Margarito Because God/Something Told Him To...

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He was seen as the best LW of the era. Mosley and Oscar crack Williams chin at 147 or 154.
     
  2. tinman

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    Please he loses badly to DLH or Mosley at 135.

    Come on.

    Pac stops him in 3.

    JLC has been knocked out 8 times. At least 4 times in his prime. And of those 4 times 3 were total Mexican bums.

    Stop this.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Okay.

    I wasn't been funny, I just wasn't sure what point you were trying to make.

    Regarding his fight with Oscar, IMHO, that's Floyd's best win. Even though Oscar was faded, he was still a great fighter at that point, and Floyd was completely outsized in terms of weight, reach and height.

    Yes, in most of his fights, Floyd had a reach advantage which was very significant. Especially at the lower weights. There's not many SFW's, LW's and LWW's who possess a 72" reach.
     
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  4. Pimp C

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    Pac wouldn't stop JLC in 3 that's ridiculous. Lesser fighters than JLC went a full 12 with Pac. I liked Williams but he fought like a fool and had one of the worst ring IQs in the history of boxing. He was very beatable and a sucker for counter punchers which is why he had so much trouble with Quintana and Lara. PBF who's a better counter puncher than both would have schooled Williams to.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, not at all.

    Reach is hugely important. Especially to a guy with Floyd's style.

    An example:

    He had a 7" reach advantage over Ricky Hatton.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    JLC is skilled but is big time chinny.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stop hiding behind that.

    You're the guy who claims that Manny was guilty despite there never being a shred of evidence.
     
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  8. derekcantona

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    Margarito without loaded gloves loses between 10-2 and 12-0. Mayweather would've been much harder to land flush on than Cotto was. Too slow with a combination of predictability and mediocre defence would mean he'd be eating counters all night. If he fought the older Mayweather who fought Maidana twice he'd fare somewhat better but would still lose on a frustrating night. I would have liked to have seen it but I think that Mosley, Cotto and Pacquiao answered all of the questions we had about Margarito's ability.
     
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  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well no knowledgeable person is buying his reasoning.
     
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  10. Pimp C

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    You act as if the only reason why PBF was great is because of his reach. You don't bring up he had an ATG ring IQ or defense or punch anticipation or counter punching.
     
  11. Pimp C

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    Kinda like you do with PBF despite that he never tested positive.
     
  12. derekcantona

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    Yes, in most of his fights, Floyd had a reach advantage which was very significant. Especially at the lower weights. There's not many SFW's, LW's and LWW's who possess a 72" reach.[/QUOTE]

    Can't argue with any of that, makes him a H2H monster at 130/135.

    He's not paying me to say any of this, I swear
     
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  13. derekcantona

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    Yeah but we can flip that and say that Ricky was such a great inside fighter because he doesn't need much room to get his punches off. That was a dangerous fight for Floyd. Not sure what Ricky was thinking against Pacquiao, brainless performance.
     
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  14. Loudon

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    It's how they'd have matched up stylistically.

    The degree of difficulty etc.

    You're not comparing the fighters on a P4P basis.

    If you think that a guy Mosley was an overall better fighter than Paul Williams, then that's fine. But Paul Williams would have been much harder to beat than Shane Mosley.

    Floyd is on another planet to Iran Barkley. But it doesn't mean he'd have beaten Tommy Hearns.
     
  15. Pimp C

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    Williams is a dumb fighter he has no answer for a good counter puncher he also gets hit with the same punch over and over and doesn't make adjustments. He's not a thinking man's fighter. PBF would figure that dude out and put a counter punch clinic on Williams.