Floyd against southpaws

You're trying to cook up an argument that doesn't fly. Judah may be inconsistent but he's hardly mediocre, and Corley and Mitchell were both solid gatekeepers. They are also, aside from being southpaws, night and day different from Pac. Just shut up and wait to see what happens during the fight. You can try to convince people all day long with shitty evidence but the fight will happen and whatever happens in the ring trumps any arguments you can come up with.

Maybe Mayweather wins, maybe he loses, but getting caught by Corley is completely irrelevant either way. Different man, different day, different everything.

 

Yeah...great fight wasn't it?

Too bad Mayweather and great fights aren't usually in the same sentence these days. He's fought a more defensive fight since the JLC and the Corley fights.

Of course he didn't have to against the Gatti who beat Gianluca Branco for the WBC 140lb title. But with the exception of that fight, his fights as of late make Wlad Klitschko fights look like Gatti/Ward.

Has any Mayweather fan asked themselves why Floyd can't knock fighters out like Pac does?

 

Don't get defensive, the man is just making his case...besides, i just hope Mayweather has the brass to make the fight happen.

 

I'm sure there are more than a few reasons. He's a defense first fighter. He has a history of hand problems. He's not naturally as powerful a puncher as Pacquiao, nor does he tend to commit as much to punches as Pacquiao because that would cause his defense to suffer.

I don't really care though. Bernard Hopkins hasn't knocked anyone out in years and I still enjoyed watching him fight. Joe Calzaghe did a lot of shoe-shining late in his career, but he was still fun to watch due to his handspeed, stamina, and style.

As a matter of preference I would rather watch a guy win a fight through clean effective punching and defense than by simply blitzing the other guy and relying on natural punching power for the win. The former is more interesting to me. That's not a value judgement, just a matter of personal preference.

 

I don't start these threads, and frankly I find the whole discussion pointless, but I seem to always get suckered into responding because I just can't let a bad point slide.

I don't think that Floyd will beat Manny because Marquez gave him a tough fight and I don't recall ever saying that, unless it was done so sarcastically as a rejoinder to the "Pac will beat Mayweather because Judah gave him a tough fight" chorus. Those fights are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. Looking at the entire body of work of both fighters it's clear that they are both up against something very different than they have dealt with before, and previous opponents aren't very helpful.

I think Floyd will win because he has an advantage in size, reach, and what I consider to be traditional boxing skills. His balance and positioning seem better than Pac, he has excellent reflexes, and he is an excellent counterpuncher. I think that Pacquiao makes some fundamental errors in the way he attacks and throws punches that his natural speed and athletic ability have masked. I think Floyd is fast enough and has the vision to make Pac pay for making those mistakes. I think Floyd wins a decision over a 12 round fight in which Pac has some success, but not enough to string together 7 rounds to win it.

That's just my opinion though, and in my opinion it's the toughest fight that either guy will have in his career. As I said, either guy could win, but without any strong reasons to pick one way or the other (like a glass jaw, or stamina issues or mental fragility) I'll simply go with Floyd because I think he's technically superior boxer.

 

You can't really blame people for looking at these fights for things Manny can exploit. Roach is probably already doing the exact same thing. Mitchell and Corley aren't the best examples, but Zab made Floyd look mortal for an entire third of a fight. Manny does everything better than Zab, minus the "super" uppercut, so of course that fight is going to come up.

Looking back at it, the problems Zab gave Cotto before Cotto started going low were actually very indicative of what happened with Pacquiao. Now obviously Cotto is a far more flawed fighter than Floyd, but Manny is also a much better fighter than Zab. I think it's also safe to say that Roach is a better trainer than Yoel. Floyd is going to have to make multiple adjustments to beat Manny, he really only had to make one to beat Zab.

 

But that's just it...Pac doesn't set his knockouts up by just rushing his opponents like Tyson.

I prefer a decisive victory. A schooling that results in a KO is just that. Look at the DLH fight for reference. I think Floyd waas content with a SD victory...had Pac simply won an SD victory against his last three opponents, we wouldn't even be discussing a fight with Pac and Floyd.

 

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Floyd Mayweather vs DEMARCUS CORLEY

Mayweather Landed 47% of his 50 punches per round and 53% of his power shots.

Mayweather Outlanded Corley 283-150 in total punches.

Mayweather Dropped Corley in 8th & 10th rounds, landing 28 power shots in 8th & 34 in 10th.

OH and Mayweather shoulder rolled all night on Corley...

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Mayweather Finished strong, outlanding Corley 120-44 in power shots over last 5 rounds.

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Floyd Mayweather vs Zab Judah

Mayweather dropped first 2 rounds on 2 cards after getting outlanded 11-5 in power shots in opening 6 minutes. Start of round 3 All Floyd from then on, as he outlanded Judah 153-53 in power shots, including 28-2 in the 9th. Floyd played some “D” as well, as Judah landed in single digits in total connects in 10 of 12 rounds.

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Overall, Mayweather landed 205 of 441 (46%) total punches to 89 of 485 (18%) for Zab.

Floyd also landed 158 of 322 (49%) power shots to 64 of 177 (36%) for Judah, who managed to land just 25 of 308 jabs (8%).

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Floyd Mayweather vs SHARMBA MITCHELL

Mayweather outlanded the overmatched Mitchell 85-31 in total punches after outlanding Gatti 168-41. More impressive than Mayweather’s accuracy (43% of his power shots) was his defense, as Mitchell landed just 11% of his total punches. Mitchell landed 31 punches in less than six rounds- an average of just 5 per round

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..............Mitchell down once in Round 3 and KO'd on a body shot in Round 6.

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Cotto is left-handed. Mayweather would never ever brawl! Mayweather brawled with some of other boxers because he was forced to do so. Same with Castillo. Morrales won the fight but doesn't mean that Pacquiao didn't do any damage on him. I watched it again and realized that the fight was close! :bbb