Floyd cheats with his elbow

victor879 · May 6, 2010

nipplefloss said: ↑

My favorite thing about this thread is that none of the **** people are complaining about Floyd doing is even a listed foul in Nevada, which means it is at the refs discretion to call what he likes:

From the Nevada Athletic Commission's list of fouls in boxing:

1. Hitting below the belt.
2. Hitting an opponent who is down or is getting up after being down.
3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.
4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.
5. Wrestling or kicking.
6. If the referee has signaled that the opponent has been knocked out, striking an opponent who is helpless as a result of previous blows and so supported by the ropes that he does not fall.
7. Butting with the head or shoulder or using the knee.
8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt of the hand, the wrist or the elbow, and all backhand blows.
9. Purposely going down without being hit.
10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys.
11. Deliberately using the rabbit punch.
12. Jabbing the opponents eyes with the thumb of the glove.
13. Using abusive language in the ring.
14. Engaging in any unsportsmanlike trick or action which causes injury to an opponent.
15. Hitting on the break.
16. Hitting after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
17. Hitting an opponent whose head is between and outside of the ropes.
18. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes.

Show me, please, where "ducking below the waist" or "pushing with the forearm" is listed in there.

If it's not listed as a foul it's not a foul unless the ref decides it is. And generally, unless Floyd puts it right in the guys throat, the refs don't consider it a foul because creating distance on the inside with your shoulder, or forearm, or gloves is just part of fighting on the inside. Unless a boxer is actually striking the other guy with their forearm, or attempting to choke him, it's pretty much fair play.
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Thank you.

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simon850 · May 6, 2010

nipplefloss said: ↑

My favorite thing about this thread is that none of the **** people are complaining about Floyd doing is even a listed foul in Nevada, which means it is at the refs discretion to call what he likes:

From the Nevada Athletic Commission's list of fouls in boxing:

1. Hitting below the belt.
2. Hitting an opponent who is down or is getting up after being down.
3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.
4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.
5. Wrestling or kicking.
6. If the referee has signaled that the opponent has been knocked out, striking an opponent who is helpless as a result of previous blows and so supported by the ropes that he does not fall.
7. Butting with the head or shoulder or using the knee.
8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt of the hand, the wrist or the elbow, and all backhand blows.
9. Purposely going down without being hit.
10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys.
11. Deliberately using the rabbit punch.
12. Jabbing the opponents eyes with the thumb of the glove.
13. Using abusive language in the ring.
14. Engaging in any unsportsmanlike trick or action which causes injury to an opponent.
15. Hitting on the break.
16. Hitting after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
17. Hitting an opponent whose head is between and outside of the ropes.
18. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes.

Show me, please, where "ducking below the waist" or "pushing with the forearm" is listed in there.

If it's not listed as a foul it's not a foul unless the ref decides it is. And generally, unless Floyd puts it right in the guys throat, the refs don't consider it a foul because creating distance on the inside with your shoulder, or forearm, or gloves is just part of fighting on the inside. Unless a boxer is actually striking the other guy with their forearm, or attempting to choke him, it's pretty much fair play.
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Oh ****, thread just got shut the **** down!

sdsfinest22 · May 6, 2010

nipplefloss said: ↑

My favorite thing about this thread is that none of the **** people are complaining about Floyd doing is even a listed foul in Nevada, which means it is at the refs discretion to call what he likes:

From the Nevada Athletic Commission's list of fouls in boxing:

1. Hitting below the belt.
2. Hitting an opponent who is down or is getting up after being down.
3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.
4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.
5. Wrestling or kicking.
6. If the referee has signaled that the opponent has been knocked out, striking an opponent who is helpless as a result of previous blows and so supported by the ropes that he does not fall.
7. Butting with the head or shoulder or using the knee.
8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt of the hand, the wrist or the elbow, and all backhand blows.
9. Purposely going down without being hit.
10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys.
11. Deliberately using the rabbit punch.
12. Jabbing the opponents eyes with the thumb of the glove.
13. Using abusive language in the ring.
14. Engaging in any unsportsmanlike trick or action which causes injury to an opponent.
15. Hitting on the break.
16. Hitting after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
17. Hitting an opponent whose head is between and outside of the ropes.
18. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes.

Show me, please, where "ducking below the waist" or "pushing with the forearm" is listed in there.

If it's not listed as a foul it's not a foul unless the ref decides it is. And generally, unless Floyd puts it right in the guys throat, the refs don't consider it a foul because creating distance on the inside with your shoulder, or forearm, or gloves is just part of fighting on the inside. Unless a boxer is actually striking the other guy with their forearm, or attempting to choke him, it's pretty much fair play.
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WOW..THE THREADSTARTER (EL MOSQUITO) SHOULD JUST BAN HIM/HERSELF AFTER THAT...

THE BELL HAS RANG..SCHOOLS OUThat

Windigo · May 6, 2010

As much as I hate Floyd's boring style if you aint cheatin you aint tryin.

J.R. · May 6, 2010

P4P said: ↑

He has lost a point but it's not an often thing
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Really? For a forearm to the face? Which fight?

Swarmer · May 6, 2010

It's a key part of his defense against infighting, and it is effective(and legitimate). I think that the best way to get around it is with uppercuts, he leaves himself open to up/downs with this technique.

Pimp C · May 6, 2010

nipplefloss said: ↑

My favorite thing about this thread is that none of the **** people are complaining about Floyd doing is even a listed foul in Nevada, which means it is at the refs discretion to call what he likes:

From the Nevada Athletic Commission's list of fouls in boxing:

1. Hitting below the belt.
2. Hitting an opponent who is down or is getting up after being down.
3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.
4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.
5. Wrestling or kicking.
6. If the referee has signaled that the opponent has been knocked out, striking an opponent who is helpless as a result of previous blows and so supported by the ropes that he does not fall.
7. Butting with the head or shoulder or using the knee.
8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt of the hand, the wrist or the elbow, and all backhand blows.
9. Purposely going down without being hit.
10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys.
11. Deliberately using the rabbit punch.
12. Jabbing the opponents eyes with the thumb of the glove.
13. Using abusive language in the ring.
14. Engaging in any unsportsmanlike trick or action which causes injury to an opponent.
15. Hitting on the break.
16. Hitting after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
17. Hitting an opponent whose head is between and outside of the ropes.
18. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes.

Show me, please, where "ducking below the waist" or "pushing with the forearm" is listed in there.

If it's not listed as a foul it's not a foul unless the ref decides it is. And generally, unless Floyd puts it right in the guys throat, the refs don't consider it a foul because creating distance on the inside with your shoulder, or forearm, or gloves is just part of fighting on the inside. Unless a boxer is actually striking the other guy with their forearm, or attempting to choke him, it's pretty much fair play.
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Good stuff!:good

techks · May 6, 2010

Mehh I'm still not a fan of the elbow tactic it still looks a little dirty to me. But, I am a fan of Mayweather. I remember Tito did it to Hopkins and I dunno....looks a little dirty. But then again, I am a Hopkins fan too so I know what dirty REALLY looks like completely. Can't the ref still take away points for Mayweather for pushing off with the elbow though?

StreetsofRAGE · May 6, 2010

Most great fighters bend the rules a bit and honestly there's nothing wrong with it. If you get away with it, and it's helping you out, keep doing it. It's a fight. There's nothing wrong with that. I think most fighters would agree with me on that.

techks · May 6, 2010

StreetsofRAGE said: ↑

Most great fighters bend the rules a bit and honestly there's nothing wrong with it. If you get away with it, and it's helping you out, keep doing it. It's a fight. There's nothing wrong with that. I think most fighters would agree with me on that.
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I'm not gonna lie I'll probably hold & hit but I'll try to refrain from doing that in the AMA's.

Xerant · May 6, 2010

el mosquito said: ↑

we all know floyd has tha reach of an orangutan. when he doesn't want his opponent to punch him in close distance he simply raises his elbow and pushes it to the face and more often to his opponent's neck. In the marquez fight, what's so funny is that Floy has his elbow on marquez' neck and while marquez on the other hand was so small he couldn't reach floyd while in that position.
Anyone think this is legit in boxing?
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Hes getting warn sometime but he's just a master at doing that too.

hookoffjab · May 6, 2010

Its illegal when a fighter pushes off with the elbow to the face,like Mayweather did with Gatti and was warned by referee for doing. But if on the opponents chest and slides the elbow across the chest,its not. Also if you notice with Mayweather,when pressed by opponent and he goes into his shell,his right hand protects his face and his elbow is pointing upward. This is done,so if the opponent throws their overhand righthand while that elbow is up,right where the elbow bends would hit the tip of his elbow,which will cause alot of pain. If the opponent keeps throwing that overhand punch while hes in that position,after awhile they won't be able to throw their right hand effectively

CarlesX7 · May 6, 2010

el mosquito said: ↑

we all know floyd has tha reach of an orangutan. when he doesn't want his opponent to punch him in close distance he simply raises his elbow and pushes it to the face and more often to his opponent's neck. In the marquez fight, what's so funny is that Floy has his elbow on marquez' neck and while marquez on the other hand was so small he couldn't reach floyd while in that position.
Anyone think this is legit in boxing?
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:|

TheGreat · May 6, 2010

el mosquito said: ↑

we all know floyd has tha reach of an orangutan. when he doesn't want his opponent to punch him in close distance he simply raises his elbow and pushes it to the face and more often to his opponent's neck. In the marquez fight, what's so funny is that Floy has his elbow on marquez' neck and while marquez on the other hand was so small he couldn't reach floyd while in that position.
Anyone think this is legit in boxing?
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Its illegal and the refs should do more about it, that being said, what he does is minor compared to what I have seen from other fighters.

sdsfinest22 · May 6, 2010

hookoffjab said: ↑

Its illegal when a fighter pushes off with the elbow to the face,like Mayweather did with Gatti and was warned by referee for doing. But if on the opponents chest and slides the elbow across the chest,its not. Also if you notice with Mayweather,when pressed by opponent and he goes into his shell,his right hand protects his face and his elbow is pointing upward. This is done,so if the opponent throws their overhand righthand while that elbow is up,right where the elbow bends would hit the tip of his elbow,which will cause alot of pain. If the opponent keeps throwing that overhand punch while hes in that position,after awhile they won't be able to throw their right hand effectively
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