Floyd clowns Canelo for getting caught using PEDs and says he would have beaten Tommy Hearns

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's a well known, well documented comtaminated meat problem in Mexico. To ignore that and believe that Canelo must be on every PED money without a shred of evidence is an ignorant notion.
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd didn't clown Canelo for getting caught using PEDs. What he said was basically non descriptive. He was talking about how he implemented random blood and urine testing, then he acknowledged what happened with Canelo without giving any specifics.

    Though he seemed to do what many on these forums have gone which is question how contaminated meat could have been responsible for what happened. To take that stance is to ignore the well known meat contamination problem in Mexico and basically act like because this substance isn't found in meat in the USA, that we just have to assume that meat in other countries would have the same standards that exist in the USA.

    And a failure to realize that the same organizations that Floyd relied on (USADA, VADA) to implement his more stringent drug testing throughout boxing has taken a well researched stance to implement a threshold for it.
     
  3. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A bit ironic isn't it? Both his trainers/manager Jose "Chepo" Reynoso and Eddy were professional butchers who own meat markets yet they couldn't you know, warn Canelo or import meat or do anything and blame it all on the meat?

    In the words of Francisco Estrada when asked about Alvarez and his positive drug tests for the banned substance clenbuterol and blaming it as a result of eating.
    “It’s all I eat,” Estrada said. “I eat it. I don’t inject it.”

    I'll just leave it at that...
     
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  4. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know. Its almost as unbelievable as a guy working with an organization thats been proven corrupt by covering failed tests on several occasions but protects him to the point of allowing him to dilute his PED use at home and covering up his own past failed tests. Its crazy man.
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This argument has been made before and it's a fair one. His trainers are butchers so they should be well aware of the problem. But it's unclear how Canelo ingested the clenbuterol. If for example he was at a baseball game in Mexico and ate something at the stadium that would be something out of his trainer's control. So anotherwords he could have been taken precautious when he was at his home and Chepo or Eddy were cooking for him, but then out at a baseball stadium had a bite of a piece of meat at a game and the next day got randomly tested.
     
  6. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then he should stop criticizing others and stop jealousing them. If Floyd still thinks that he can fight then get into the ring with the fighters that he criticized. That's it.
     
  7. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be honest. He makes some good points. Canelo and the peds and Hearns losing and someone finding/found the blueprint or greenprint to beating him or whatever nonsense he says-he says the truth. What he says has some validity so I give him that. If we look at things more clearly, it is harder to really find a conclusion. I do think he brilliantly constructed the undefeated record so he could say later no one solved his style, and he does have that to fall back on no matter what. Tommy lost to Ray and Marvin when he was tops. Yet Floyd never fought a Ray and Marvin level. Not really. And he did have Manny to fight earlier no matter what Floyd says. So how can we be sure what would have happened.
     
  8. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman Well-Known Member booted Full Member

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    The guy screamed from the mountain top for YEARS about how one guy was on PEDs only to be caught using illegal IV fluids. If you don't dislike this turd on an immense level for this hypocrisy alone, then you're not a fully developed adult with a working brain.

    And we're not even including the fact that he's beat multiple women, is a racist, has had ultra low T/E ratios consistent with doping, and ducked VADA testing and drug testing penalties.

    So what's wrong with you?
     
  9. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okey Dokey Mr. Ariza Shakes....I mean, Pakkuman! :lol:
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    Hearns puts both Canelo and Floyd on a stretcher. PEDs or not.
     
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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Back in the real world, Floyd would NEVER have a signed a contract to fight Tommy, let alone have beaten him.

    It's laughable.

    He's currently out of the spotlight and craving attention.
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is a good post, but the reality is, Floyd wasn't as confident in the ring as how he speaks out of it.
     
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How can he question Canelo when he had an IV on his sofa?

    No logically thinking person believes that he was so severely dehydrated that he needed that. And it was officially classed as a medical emergency and banned.

    Regarding Hearn's, the blueprint to beating him was to fight him.

    Floyd was a master boxer. A great technician. But he wasn't a fighter.

    At WW and above, he was a safety first fighter with hand issues.

    He enjoyed pot shotting guys to easy decision wins.

    He couldn't and wouldn't have fought Tommy aggressively like Ray, Marvin and Barkley had to do in order to beat him. He just didn't possess the heart, confidence or the firepower which was needed.

    Then there's the fact that he wouldn't fight Manny when it mattered and he wouldn't fight Canelo without a C-W etc.

    He's living in a fantasy.

    The thought of him actually signing a contract to fight Hearns is laughable.
     
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  14. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Nobody truly believes Canelo is clean. Everyone knows all boxers are on PED. So it's more of a who cares??..
     
  15. Almish

    Almish BOMB SQUAD 43-0 WBC/RING/LINEAL Full Member

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    He didn't just say Canelo got caught with PEDs and started speaking on other subject.

    "Then Canelo talks it was the meat that he was eating, so ok I guess now you are eating steroid cows or enhanced cows, man these boys kill me"

    He said "Then Canelo talks it was the meat that he was eating, so ok I guess now you are eating steroid cows or enhanced cows, man these boys kill me"

    It is pretty obvious he was making fun of Canelo.
     


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