Floyd doesn't want Pacquiao

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Gander Tasco, Jul 1, 2010.


  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    No ones making excuses. Its just Mosley is old thats all. I cant change that fact.
     
  2. johnnykoolkid

    johnnykoolkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and i didnt say you were, i was speaking in general, and yes he's on the other end of 30 but he's still a world class athlete
     
  3. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Timing is mostly ring rust, not age. Coordination might've been lacking due to nervous energy pointed out by Emanuel Steward. Speed was definitely there... hence him actually getting lucky to land.

    Mosley is a rhythm fighter and Floyd took him completely out of his rhythm. Floyd would have always beaten Mosley, and that's where you're wrong and that's what you don't seem to understand.
     
  4. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't disagree that Floyd outboxed him. But Shane looked like an old rusty fighter. That's just what I saw in the fight. It was 50% of what Floyd did, and 50% Shane being past it, imo. You really think a younger Mosley would have stood around like that and not thrown any punches? Floyd was giving him all the chances in the world to throw and he couldn't do it. That's a shot fighter for you.
     
  5. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I saw Floyd hitting Mosley making him look like a bobble head. He looked confused, and bewildered. A young Mosley would've been more energetic, but would've gotten hit more going in. Mosley never had a truly great jab, and always had that bouncing rhythm style that Mayweather would always nullify. And if Mosley can't get in a groove and land his bombs he won't win. A young Mosley only wins by a KO, which I'd estimate is perhaps a 20% chance.
     
  6. chimba

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    If I didnt see that fight man, you may have convinced me. But I saw a different fight, I saw a fight where a 38yr old man who hasnt fought in a year connected on Floyd and had him on ***** st. Now what would the probability of a 27 year old Shane Mosley ending that fight right there?

    You know, I dont know for sure but I can only make an educated guess that it would have been very high.
     
  7. YENOOR

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    Mosley got what he asked for a royal whooping. Mosley cant box slick fighters, you should thank mayweather for performing the way he did, because he could have easily baldomir mosley ass that night but chose not to.

    Any version of mosley gets schooled.
     
  8. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All I saw in that fight was a younger fighter potshotting/countering an older fighter. Floyd is a better boxer, but he gave Mosley plenty of opportunities to let his hands go and he couldn't do it. A younger Mosley would have been throwing combinations and going to the body. Floyd would have gotten knocked out or dropped in Round 2.

    20% chance? C'mon man. Now your just overrating Floyd. There wasn't anything particularly special about his performance, and he didn't do anything to convince me that he would have surely beaten a prime Shane.
     
  9. YENOOR

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    Bull****, mayweather would have adopted a different style. A 27 year old floyd will have been dancing around that ring.:lol:
     
  10. PetethePrince

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    That 2nd round sequence was luck. If a 27 year old Mosley landed he might drop Floyd at the most. Floyd knows how to survive and stay calm and collected.

    What do you think the odds are that Mosley lands on Floyd in that same way twice in one round if they fought 10 times? I'd say once or twice. Really, Floyd let his guard down a tad too early and learned from it. This "Mosley was/is shot" revisionism is bogus. He had been training a lot, and sparring much. Yeah he looked rusty, but any jittery nervous **** that burns himself out is going to look that way. That's a credit to Floyd, though. I'm not even a fan, but someone has to set the record straight.
     
  11. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    God how do you know this?
     
  12. PetethePrince

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    There's no way we can attribute Floyd to have pot-shot Mosley when he was standing toe to toe, and at times pushing him back. That's not pot-shotting and your assessment is distorted and inaccurate if that's how you will label it. When did Floyd give Mosley plenty of opportunities? Why do you think Mosley looked so confused and hesistant? Because he was getting countered, and he no idea how to nullify Floyd. You overrated Mosley I think my friend. His ability to adapt and adjust in a fight is horrid. His track record against slick boxers is not great, nor is his ring IQ when faced with adversity. These are facts, don't let your hate get in the way.

    By the way, Mosley tried going to the body later in the fight but it was too late. He was completely thrown off by then. He was head-hunting because the nervous **** wanted to knock Floyd out so bad.

    You're right, 20% chance was too high for Mosley. Floyd's performance was pretty good, but nothing special I agree. Mosley just isn't on that level. Let's be realistic.
     
  13. PetethePrince

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    Because I know boxing better than you. Power is the last thing to go. You telling me Floyd gets knocked out by 1 shot if Mosley is 27? You think Mosley would've finished Floyd? Or are you telling me Mosley did something so great to set up that big right hand?
     
  14. Gander Tasco

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    Pete your a good poster, but like many others around here your overrating Floyd too much. The guy isn't superman. A young Mosley's speed, combination/body punching, and punching power would have given him a lot of trouble. You can't tell me Floyd Mayweather who isn't exactly the toughest dude , is going to stand toe to toe and walk down a young Mosley for 12 rounds and get away with it?

    What Floyd was doing was the same strategy Winky Wright used with Mosley, except if you saw the Wright fights , even though Mosley lost he was ripping Wright with combinations and heavy shots, Mosley did next to nothing against Floyd, and his reflexes and timing were shot as well. If you don't want to use the word shot, you can call it old age and rust. I don't see what the difference is though.
     
  15. YENOOR

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    And like many others you flip flop. First it Mosley would knock out mayweather. Didn't happen, new theory, mosley was shot.:rofl

    Now it's floyd doesn't want pac, then new theory, floyd was forced into it:rofl

    The pattern of excuses is amazing.