Floyd fan.. but Pacquiao may beat him

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  1. ai786

    ai786 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm a Fan of Floyd, but i think Pacquaio stands a good chance of beating him, the guy's speed and stamina is excellent, and he can press the attack all night on Floyd, with Mosley once he got tired which was quite early on, Floyd picked him off with ease and Mosley was to tired to throw back. But this won't happen with Pac because of his amazing stamina, I can imagine him taking the fight to Floyd and making it a tough fight for him, a bit like when Floyd fought jesus chavez that was a close fight on harold ledermen's card until chavez was pulled out, and Pac is much more a hell of a fighter than Chavez.
     
  2. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Now get ready to be pounded by the *****s.
     
  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    And Floyd hasn't got any better after all those years apart from his Chavez fight? Floyd would **** emmanuel on the inside.
     
  4. Piffer

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  5. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No way, thats crazy talk, if Floyd brawls with Pac he is getting KTFO. Floyd beats Manny by boxing, countering.
     
  6. DonPrestige

    DonPrestige Active Member Full Member

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    The Chavez fight, seriously? How about we compare Manny at the same stage against the Floyd of now. The Floyd now is a much better fighter than the Judah fight let alone Chavez.

    Manny has excellent Stamina but at the same degree as Mayweather, I personally don't think so.

    By the end of Manny's fights he looks tired. Floyd, not so much.
     
  7. I've said it ever since the fight was first talked about. TS is absolutely right. Pacquiao has the speed, the footwork, the angles, and the stamina to outwork Floyd over 12 rounds. Yes he will eat counters, but until fight night I'm sticking with my prediction of Pacquiao by close UD/SD 12, setting up a very lucrative rematch.
     
  8. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Manny is not a better inside fighter than Floyd.
     
  9. Ben_UK

    Ben_UK Member Full Member

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    agree with thw above
     
  10. DonPrestige

    DonPrestige Active Member Full Member

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    I think Manny can also beat by effective pressure and closing the space. The thing Manny is great as is jumping in an out so fast that he hits you with a ton of punches and then retreats.

    If a bigger fighter with quick feet would have the speed to stay close to Manny and negate his speed advantage and space to throw shots Manny would find it difficult. Look at his last four fights. they all gave him too much space to work his magic, none of them were fast in pressuring him, well except Hatton but he was swinging wildly.
     
  11. TommyV

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    For me, it comes down to 4 key factors:

    1 - Speed - Manny hasn't had to fight a guy with speed on par with his, or possibly even faster. Manny by his own admittance says he needs to become even quicker.

    2 - Defence - Guys like DLH, Cotto, Diaz, Hatton aren't reknowned for their defenses. Clottey was an despite Pac throwing 1231 punches, he only landed at 20% and failed to break Clottey down who did little but let Pac throw leather. Marquez was and he only landed at 25% in the rematch. Floyd has an even better D.

    3 - Jab - I think to beat Floyd, you need to try and take him out of his rhythm with a good jab. Shane landed a great right hand in round 2 (before the one that rocked Floyd) when he set it up with the jab and put Floyd all off balance to deal with the right hand. Manny doesn't possess such a weapon. And when it comes to getting jabbed back, we haven't seen it against the likes of Hatton, Clottey etc. Cotto was hitting him with the jab the first 2 or 3 rounds and then abandoned it.

    4 - Right Hand - Manny hasn't had to fight guys with a good right hand. Hatton's main weapon was the left-hook, same with Cotto, same with DLH. Clottey's best weapon was the right hand and although he didn't throw it often, he did hit Manny clean with it a number of times. Marquez gave him problems with his right hand, Larios nearly had him on the canvas.
     
  12. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    I'm not so sure. Floyd is very effecient on the inside, he knows how to tie up, how to use his superior strength and how to get his punches off.
     
  13. hmm

    hmm damn chairs Full Member

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    hmm says . . .

    I'm a diehard pacfan but I dunno about this one . . . even though he has excellent stamina and speed, stylistically, Pac can throw whatever he wants while PBF will be patient enough to land what counts . . . I can see a few weird angle power shots being landed by Pac but overall, PBF will outpoint him . . .
     
  14. Marciano

    Marciano AmicoDiNessuno Full Member

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    First Three Rounds go to Pac The Rest Mayweather !!!
     
  15. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You mean UNBELIEVABLE speed and stamina. If Pac has natural speed and stamina then I would agree. He would be a freak of nature and could possibly beat Floyd. Any objective fan can see this. If Pac beats floyd, then pac would have to be a top 10 ATG, not because he beat Floyd but because what he has done in moving up so many weight divisions. Beating Floyd would be the icing on the cake.

    However, I do not think Pac is fighting naturally. His camp continues to seek a favorable condition under which Pac can still benefit from enchancers. Even fourteen days is favorable according to an article by Victor Conte in these forums. Pac's excuses have no scientific basis. Any objective fan would have some doubt about the veracity of Pac's statements.

    If Pac loses convincingly to Floyd then Pac would not be in my ATG list at all because I would have to believe he got to where he is today by cheating. If it is a close fight, even if Pac loses, then Pac still has to be considered an ATG and perhaps even higher than Mayweather. Why is Pac ducking the test then?