Floyd fans, does this change your mind on the Pac-Floyd breakdown? (Bill?)

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  1. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have some nerve calling anybody a "kid" when you clearly have a 9th grade level education.

    Again, what Floyd Mayweather Jr. says does not really matter, Floyd is not the one who creates the protocols for PED testing, nor is he the one who administers the tests.

    These guys do: http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/GuidelinesBloodSample_unmarked.pdf

    You are a ****ing moron, seriously. I actually feel sorry for you.
     
  2. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Contradict yourself often?
     
  3. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can't possibly be this stupid? Can you? Where have I contradicted myself? You are making **** up dude. LOL

    DO US ALL A FAVOR AND NEVER HAVE KIDS. Seriously, we don't need more stupid ignorant people around.

    BTW -- The only evidence you have posted is comments by Floyd Mayweather Jr. ROFL... yea, Floyd is a credible source on PED testing protocols. LOL Does that mean I can quote Mayweather to you now and use that as fact? HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA ****ING TOOL I am literally shocked at your level of stupidity.
     
  4. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Floyd said he wanted to use USADA.
    Floyd said he wanted the olympic style drug testing.
    Floyd said they take a tablespoon of blood.

    What floyd says doesn't matter.

    You're trying way too hard and it's not working out for you.
    Go find another 13 year old to converse with.
    You're boring me now.
     
  5. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/GuidelinesBloodSample_unmarked.pdf
    http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/GuidelinesBloodSample_unmarked.pdf
    http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/GuidelinesBloodSample_unmarked.pdf
    http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/GuidelinesBloodSample_unmarked.pdf


    You are the biggest joke on these message boards, seriously. You are so ****ing stupid it is hilarious that you call anybody a kid.

    How much did that "Born to Lose" tattoo cost on your forehead anyways?
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    born to lose???

    Now you're an illiterate comedian?
    Stick to the mantra, fella.

    WADA PRICKS FINGERS FOR LESS THAN 1 TEASPOON OF BLOOD!!!

    Well, guess you have a lot of explaining to do to the entire boxing community.
    Start with your idol, he's in disagreement with you.
     
  7. kukoy

    kukoy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Get your facts straight, team Pac had the last proposal and Mayweather did not put a counter offer and the 48 hour deadline lapsed. :deal
     
  8. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    you guys are so ****ing boring...trying to defend your idol and blame the other...
     
  9. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/GuidelinesBloodSample_unmarked.pdf

    It is essentially a pin *****. It just has a small vacuum tube connected to it to collect the sample. They do not use a syringe unless needed.

    Sorry, but I don't have an "idol." I have "role models" and "mentors" though, none of which are professional athletes.
     
  10. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    kukoy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry, I am not so sure about this, but I just can't imagine taking 6ml of blood by pricking your finger.

    I am not sure how many pricks, or probably pricking then squeezing your finger to let out 6ml. And I just can't imagine them sucking out 6ml from your finger with a needle.
     
  12. Sinew

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    No sports association is going to throw an money making athlete away. some of these guys are only going to get into real trouble when they lie about it in court.

    MArk is getting a job in baseball. No one truly seems to care about his past.

    But what is weird. What is truly strange is when another athlete is accusing. Not when one athlete gets caught. Or another writing a book .

    but when you are accusing in open competition? During a possible match up?
     
  13. BigReg

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    Let met just say that I don't believe this stunt neccesarily means Pac is juicing. However, he's not taking any tests so he's not under any microscope. If you're really trying to prevent someone from juicing, you would never accept a 30 or a 24 day window. That to me seemed like a bogus offer that they knew would never be accepted. 14 days is way more than enough time if Pac was really concerned about being weakened.

    The USADA recommends that you don't do anything strenuous with the arm that was tested for 30 minutes, and that's just to prevent bruising. So why would it take 30 days for Pac to recover from something that takes 30 minutes for most people to recover from? Let's also not forget that Pac has been cut before in fights(and probably lost more than they would take in a blood test in the process) and still performed relatively well. These excuses that Pac has been coming up with are clearly bogus. Why he's lying is not known, but it's pretty clear that he's lying.
     
  14. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The sample size is 3 mL, so they would not take it from the finger. The sample is so small and the procedure would be so fast it would be like getting a pin ***** on your finger. You would hardly feel it. The whole procedure for collecting 3 mL of blood is like getting a ***** on your finger. That is all it is, a little pin ***** on your skin.

    This is the method they use for blood collection: [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venipuncture[/ame]

    Blood is most commonly obtained from the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_cubital_vein"]median cubital vein[/ame], on the anterior [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forearm"]forearm[/ame] (the side within the fold of the elbow). This vein lies close to the surface of the skin, and there is not a large nerve supply.

    There are many ways in which blood can be drawn from a vein. The best method varies with the age of the patient, equipment available and tests required.
    Most blood collection in the US and UK is done with an evacuated tube system, (two common systems are [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacutainer"]Vacutainer[/ame] (Becton, Dickinson and company) and Vacuette (Greiner Bio-One GmBH). The equipment consisting of a plastic hub, a hypodermic needle, and a vacuum tube. Under certain circumstances, a syringe may be used, often with a butterfly needle, which is a plastic catheter attached to a short needle. In the developing world, a needle and syringe are still the most common method of drawing blood. --- Maybe could explain some of Pacquiao's concerns but I do not see why he would not be getting top notch medical treatment.



    Go measure out just over a half-teaspoon of water and poor it into your hand. It is such a small amount the blood test would be over right after she put the needle in. It may not literally be a ***** on the finger, but it sure as hell is not much more than that. You would have to be the biggest ***** in the world to get affected by this test.

    It is certainly not a tablespoon. I am sure if Pacquiao wanted to ***** about the needle, he could ***** a finger or two and let it bleed out. It is something that I think could be met by some drops of blood if you did not want the needle. Go measure out the liquid, it is a joke of an amount.
     
  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    That's some bull**** that they made up later. Pac originally said himself that he would be willing to be blood tested, just not too close to the fight. After it became well known that a 14 day window was being offered, then he said he didn't want to be tested during intese training. We know this is a lie though he sparred for 9 rounds and, by all reports, looked fantastic the day after he was blood tested for this upcoming fight.