Floyd fans, does this change your mind on the Pac-Floyd breakdown? (Bill?)

Why ask for a 10miilion per pound weight penalty? Floyd has a right with all the cheating that's going on in sports, steroids, illegal wraps, to request mores stringent testing. How in the hell was he suposed to know that Pac would refuse.

 

Cause and effect......PAC's actions were forced based on Floyd's allegations and demands...so Floyd did what he proably set out to do. Put Manny on the defensive and allow him the chance to try and control the negotiations of the fight. It was all a bunch of bull**** that killed the fight.

The 10Milll fine was DUMB..but I think it was a weak response to got "tit for tat" with Floyd who made an even more ridicoulous demand for olympic style testing against someone who was suppose to be his "EASIEST PAYDAY".

At least there is some foundation for the weight stipulation for Floyd since he did miss his contracted weight requirement last time out.

Look.....I do blame both men, but I'm just saying I think Floyd holds most of the weight in terms of responsibility with killing the fight...and again, You don't have to agree...just callin it as I see it.

 

so you know both men personally? every fighter's concern is how much hes getting paid. only a idiot wouldnt care. and you aksed why should pac give into mayweather's demands. how bout a chance to humiliate him, all the while making more money the you ever have before. no matter how you spin it, BOTH MEN messed up. after all, its just a blood test. see, people knew mayweather was a ***** for years but now it has been revealed that pacquiao is one too.

 

The job of the Floyd is to fight....the job of the commission over seeing the fighters safety is to impose regulations to prevent cheating from happening. They should just know their role and fight. PAC didn't out right refuse....he negotiated with Floyd and they stood firm and reached a stalemate..but the bottom line is there shouldn't have been this kind of mediation for olympic testing for Manny or Floyd.

 

because he knew that it would have at least irritate pac in the first place. he knew well that his father has been shouting steroids ever since pac trashed hatton. floyd is not making it easy to make this fight by giving credence to what his father have said.

pac's request has a merit since floyd did not meet the agreed catchweight for his last fight. if pac failed a drug test from his previous fights floyd has a good case for asking them but not if its done on the premise of his father's accusation.

 

Of course not....I'm basing my opinions on what each men have said. Floyd has stated Money is the end all be all. PAC has said he fights for Pride and his country men....but of course MONEY is big for both men.....I just think it's more important to Floyd based on his own words and actions.

Manny never wanted to humiliate Floyd....that was what Floyd said he wanted to do to Manny. Manny just said he wanted to face teh best and Floyd is considered the best next to him. For you it's just blood tests! For manny it could be something that causes him a lot of internal and mental struggles.

I for one know with out a doub that Flying is the safest for of travel...but you ask my wife what she thinks and she'll tell you that she gets sick, nervous and weak with just the thought of flying.....now there is no medical proof that flying makes you medically sick or weak but it affects people differnetly.

 

How do you know who asked for what for first? and even if mayweather asked for the test first, "tit for tat" means pac was willling to stoop just as low as mayweather. whats that say about pacquiao. and you cna make the agrument that pacwuiao is more to balme because how was he suppose to know pac would refuse. if pac accepted then, the fight is on but he didnt. you have to blame both men equally

 

No you dolt. That would be unreasonable. From 30 to 14 days is reasonable as it is a meeting in the middle.

Man please. I am a fan of other fighters. You know one of my other favorite fighters is Nonito Donaire right? Since you are reading my post history, why don't you go REALLY far back. Was I a Pac hater then?

And yes what I said to Darryl was real talk. Why post about hating Mayweather the person? Will any of you clowns respect Darryl and Maywether more? No. How many of you *******s start threads about Manny's serial cheating and public embarrassment of his wife in his personal life? You don't. Because you aren't looking for acceptance at Manny's expense. I respect that.

You are a clown. Address the facts in my post.

 

it's obvious that floyd demanded it in support of his father's allegations. i don't know if floyd just want to get into pac's head but it's probably the case. if floyd really want's the fight, they could have offered a closer cut-off time to the negotiations last offer of 24 days from team pacquiao.

 

James Toney is extremely jealous.

 

who care what mayweather said about money, what does that have to do with anything? as long as you fight the fights that people want to see. as far all that other stuff about fighitng the bets and pride, now you're just personalizing the topic, showing favortism. as far as the blood test, well people claim that pac gave blood a day before the hatton fight. so if thats the case, why are you claiming it weakens you? you dont if pacquiao is just lying. this is why you cant assume anything.

 

Hey...I've said that PAC has partial blame...I'm just saying that there can be one who has more responsiblity in a situation like this and it just so happens to be Floyd. You can blame both equally if you'd like. But I'm good with my stance. This fight shouldn't have had these problems making the fight happen. The money was the issue that everyone thought would be the hold up but in reality it was floyd's concern of Manny where he had to chance his stance on Manny being over hyped and a easy payday.

 

thats seems like the most logical case. to get under pac's skin but that dosent mean mayweather didnt want the fight. because again, you can say if pac wanted the fight so bad then he would agreed to the 14 day cut off but he refused. so you can say, "if so and so really wanted the fight". if either wanted the fight, they would have gave in. neither man really wanted it.

 

Look...I don't care what Floyd or Manny says...but you asked me a question and I answered. Manny has been fighting all the fights that people want to see...which is his right. Just like it's Floyd's right to fight whom ever he feels would be the best for his motives in his career! Floyd has been called a ducker, cherry picker ect.....I've never called him that expect for how I feel he ducked Manny this one time. And that is based on his actions that are completely out of the norm for a Floyd Mayweather.

I'm not showing favoritism......I'm just siding with manny. I like Floyd as well. Not particually his perosnality but I love watching him fight. The moments that he shows why he's one of the best is enough for me to respect everything he does in the ring. But I dont' have to agree with waht he does outside of it pertaining to making the fight with PAC.

All of what I base my stance on is from what the fighters have said, done and shown in the past. Manny has said LOOOONG before he doesn't like to give blood in a few different articles. So I believe him when he says he doesn't like to give blood at all but will if the commission requires it b/c it's his JOB. It's not Floyd's job to demand new testing within boxing.

 

well thats your opinion. and your enitled to it even if you're wrong. balming one man over the other when both men have the opportunity to give in, indaicates you have a bias for one man over the other especially when you keep bringing up what mayweather said and didnt even quote pac once.