Floyd fans let's look at the other side of the argument

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by sdsfinest22, Dec 30, 2009.


  1. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    I feel that whatever Pac was willing to do was good enough... There!
     
  2. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    By asking for additional procedures means he not accepting the current procedures, thus not accepting the adequacies of the current rules of NSAC testing.

    Meaning Floyd is the one with the problem with testing not Pacquiao. If Floyd had behaved like he should have and accepted the procedures like all boxers had before him , this fight would have been signed and dusted weeks ago..

    Another way of ducking. Fact.
     
  3. littlefloyd

    littlefloyd Pure boxer Full Member

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    honestly i go with number 2, its just pride and both of them are known primadonnas

    if u people are suspecting pac of juicing base on hatton and cotto then u guys are fools, if he was juicing i say it was during his featherweight days that he started
     
  4. Nazarene

    Nazarene Active Member Full Member

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    why would i need to? its baseless accussations with no evidence that which support their accusation.
     
  5. u13

    u13 Member Full Member

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    I don't agree with what you're saying but for arguments sake i'll go with it.

    Their are currently a number of weight divisions in boxing yet when Pac fought Cotto he added a catch weight stipulation which by your thinking alludes to the fact the divisions currently used by the NSAC are inadequate. Agreed?
     
  6. ???

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    Do you guys mentioning that he's been inked not understand the difference between what occurs when getting tattooed vs giving blood? Getting pigment injected into your skin is quite different from having a needle stuck in a vein and having blood vacuumed out. I don't personally have an issue with giving blood, but it is certainly a weird procedure. There I am watching a nurse remove something from my body that keeps me alive. You need blood to survive and losing too much will kill you, so I can understand why some people get freaked out when they have to give blood.

    I honestly don't know if Manny has ever claimed that he has a phobia of needles, but I do know he has said he felt having blood drawn so close to his first fight with Morales left him feeling weak. Considering that he lost that fight, it isn't surprising if he wouldn't want to undergo a procedure that he thinks contributed to his loss.
     
  7. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This has got to be the dumbest sh!t I have heard in a long time.
     
  8. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've have always tryed to see both sides of the argument...

    Pacquiao is right that team mayweather is trying to move the goal-post, so to speak, just for this fight.....and he says **** you on demanding blood testing just for this fight...

    However, it is not just floyd saying he might be on something....floyd sr./jr, Cintron, Malignaggi, Mosley has hinted, and now cotto has joined the ranks of claiming they are "skeptical" about manny pacquiao...

    **** the negotiations....If Pacquiao just wanted to clear his name, he would do blood-testing......but he is letting his ego/pride get in the way....and it's hurting him emotionally, business-wise, and personally...
     
  9. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    What does this have to do with anything? I'm sure he is much more better off than you...aside from that, he isn't the only one in the industry who believes that Manny is on the dope. He was just the first one to speak on it publicly. Instead of speaking against what he said in an intelligent way, Team Pac hurled insults like kids. Who cares that he's been to prison and never finished high school? Common sense is **** you don't learn in school. Plus, he went to the joint for hustling...where do you get the crackhead **** from? He may have been, but I didn't know that...anybody who turns down 40 mill and the fight of their life must be on something...roids or crack.
     
  10. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    made this thread a while ago and now that i tried to look at it in pac's favor i really can't..he is 100 percent wrong and he should take the tests so the fight can get goin..he is taking this fight from the fans not floyd....

    If it was manny in floyds shoes and floyd in mannys shoes the same people sayin pac is ok in saying no would be saying floyd is a ***** for not wanting to take the tests etc...its just the hate for floyd that drives these idiots to justify a super star athlete for not submitting to a random drug test...manny will get a ****in lolly pop at the end too
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    There is zero proof that Pac is taking drugs.
     
  12. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly, people have this image of manny pacquiao as this humble soft-spoken guy......but now his advisors/political team....freddie roach now has bigger ego then manny...They all act like they are the ones calling the shots....On the business/money-making side of things Mayweather is just as big as manny, if not more....

    I think Pacquiao overestimated how much pull he really has by saying no to blood-testing....Then he files a libel lawsuit, which still shows he thinks he has more pull, which he doesn't.....The only people saying this is floyd's fault is mostly floyd haters....I've been non-biased most of the time when I talk about floyd and Pacquiao both positively and nagatively....I think Manny is clean till proven otherwise, but his public relations on this has been a complete disaster....the only one talking from team mayweather is Richard Schaefer, and he is suppossed to......In the meantime, other's in the boxing community continue to question pacquiao's actions....

    A libel lawsuit will just add more fuel to the fire about PED's and manny pacquiao.....I think he is a great fighter, but he has acted a fool in his handling of this...
     
  13. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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  14. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    People who make post after post in all capitals look like they are insane. It's the internet version of frothing at the mouth.

    Why would anyone try to have a conversation or a debate with an insane person? I've done plenty of work with those who have mental health issues. You can't have proper conversations with them - it just doesn't work.
     
  15. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even if Pac agrees to random blood testing now, that does not change anything even if he comes out clean.

    Fear of blood/needle is very real. Look up "vasovagal syncope blood phobia". The Mayweather dysfunctional family probably knows it and are of course taking advantage of it. But the *****s got played by the Mayweathers and the media. They call it bull**** and they now truly believe Pac had been on roid. Nothing Pac will do now to change that.