Floyd fans, pay attention re. Canelo terms

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  1. Miguel

    Miguel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I keep reading the same thing from crazy FLoyd fans "Why would Floyd give him a guarantee, what if he loses?"

    For the last time, understand that the terms were if BOTH were to win their bouts. I keep seeing the same thing written by *****s as a way to defend their hero, I mean seriously, are these people just devoid of any common sense

    1 - Floyd had AGREED to have the contract drawn up stating if both were to win, they would fight
    2 - Canelo made no new demands, he accepted all the terms Mayweather laid out
    3 - Contract was drawn, Floyd got his way financially in all aspects. When the time came Floyd didn't sign. Canelo said "Sign what we agreed" Floyd said no, obviously not wanting to fight Canelo and hoping Canelo would still be on the undercard
    4 - Canelo says "Fair enough, if you renege on the deal then I'm off the undercard"
    5 - Cue Floyd going on about Canelo's ultimatum. Cue Floyd nuthuggers defending their hero

    This wasn't an ultimatum in the strictest sense as Canelo had bowed to all of Floyd's terms, including the financial ones.

    I hope that's clear and I dont' see another ***** go on about Floyd not signing in case Canelo lost :patsch
     
  2. ashl3y72

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  3. Undisputed

    Undisputed Cant G no other way Full Member

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    Alt n GTFO
     
  4. ashl3y72

    ashl3y72 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So do you have a source? No? Alright then. Zip your lip.
     
  5. osbrownaye

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    Floyd does what he wants when he wants he's the sports LeBron James. Give it a rest already. If canelo beats trout and Floyd beats the ghost then we will have a September fight. And if not then by all means call duck
     
  6. Miguel

    Miguel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Typical fan in denial, this is the problem...this stuff is all over the internet, it's not a secret!!!

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...floyd-mayweather-ppv-card-004841571--box.html

    Richard Schaefer:
    ""Canelo said he wouldn't fight on the May 4 undercard unless he had a written contract to fight Floyd [in the fall], assuming he won and assuming Floyd beat Guerrero ," Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer said. "Floyd told us he didn't have a problem fighting Canelo, but he wasn't going to sign anything now. He said, 'All of my focus is on Guerrero,' and I'm not signing anything to fight anybody until after that fight is over.

    "Canelo feels he's his own man and can carry his own event. He knows there are people who doubt him and, I agree with you, it's a risky fight for him. But this is what Canelo wants. He is his own boss and we do what the fighters want."

    Floyd had agreed to all the terms, but then said he wouldn't sign at the last minute...I'm guessing this still isn't enough proof for your Floyd-obsessesed a$$
     
  7. ashl3y72

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    thanks for that. so what happens if canelo got a gift decision? I'm sure youd be all for the fight then right? afterall.....Canelo 'won' :lol:
     
  8. Miguel

    Miguel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL it never ends, hilarious! Floyd is unbeaten because of a gift decision...it's still a win. It's still a W, then fight. If Floyd was concerned about gift decisions you can add in further clauses such as it has to be at least a UD.

    The point is Floyd can dictate the terms, and he did dictate the terms. And then didn't sign

    Wow, the excuses are non-stop - this is the thing, Floyd nuthuggers can't see reason ever, Floyd can do no wrong. It's very very sad
     
  9. Uncle Rico

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    I've not read the article, but from those quotes you've provided, I can't see anything which tells me "Floyd had AGREED to have the contract drawn up stating if both were to win, they would fight".
     
  10. ashl3y72

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    youre full of **** and you know it. based on your last 3 posts you'd be one of the first in here whining and crying about the fight. youre already crying about it :lol:
     
  11. Withwhatsmine

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    Why lie I'm glad Floyd does what he wants it makes up for the way the other side treats Donaire, Pacquiao, GGG and Matthysse
     
  12. Miguel

    Miguel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Alvarez:
    "Mayweather has no word to support what he says. The contract was already within the terms and just was missing the signature. He said yes, but nothing happened at the end. Floyd never signed anything. I'm tired of being accessible to fight him, since he never was real in what he was talking. The truth is he does not want to fight me. I will continue doing my own history.”


    "I said this beforehand, that if Mayweather did not sign, I would not be fighting on his event. He said he would sign and then it dragged on and later on he refused, and that’s why we moved to a new date. I do not need him and I proved it."

    This is all over the internet - *****s will believe what they want to believe, continue in your fantasy world LOL
     
  13. JohnAnthony

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    ***** typical responses. just select one:
    "No one make demands on floyd"
    "He would whup Canelo Anyway"
    "But who' Canelo Even Fought"

    Its bul**** and a load of crap.

    The simple fact is, canelo is the fight we wanted and its also the bigger money fight. The only reason its not happenening now or in September is because the fight is way too big a risk.

    *****s don't like to accept this.

    Why else would floyd not take the fight if its not because the risk is too high. Last thing floyd wants is to lose the 1st fight of his 6 fight deal!

    his fans just won't accept this. They try to argue Gurrero is a tougher match. No its not. Why would floyd take a tougher match for less money?
     
  14. Uncle Rico

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    Fair enough (if true). I suppose Floyd shouldn't have verbally agreed if he didn't want to look too far ahead.

    But still, what difference does it make if he does or doesn't sign right away? The fight will happen eventually. Bit premature to accuse Floyd of ducking when Canelo himself has his own battles to take care of (Trout).
     
  15. JohnAnthony

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    Article on ESPN pretty much SUMS up what happened and why Mayweather made this decision:

    Junior middleweight titlist Saul “Canelo” Alvarez campaigned hard -- against the wishes of some his handlers -- for a unification fight against Austin “No Doubt” Trout.

    All along the hang up in announcing the fight was not Alvarez’s unwillingness to fight Trout. He wanted the fight badly and Trout wanted to fight Alvarez too. The issue was the date.

    It finally got made on Wednesday with Golden Boy promoter Richard Schaefer announcing that it would take place on April 20 at the Alamodome in San Antonio and headline a Showtime-televised card.

    “I am very happy with my fight,” Alvarez told ESPN.com. “Austin Trout is a great fighter and I will give what people want -- a great battle and a great night for all.”

    It’s a great fight, one of the most interesting of the year. But it was supposed to be the co-feature on the May 4 Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Robert Guerrero Showtime PPV card.

    That didn’t happen only because, according to Golden Boy, Mayweather refused to sign a contract agreeing to fight Alvarez in his next fight, as long as they both won on May 4.

    Mayweather-Alvarez is a mega fight if it happens. Having them both on the same May 4 card against excellent opponents with the specter of a fall showdown would have made the card enormous.

    Mayweather-Guerrero will be a big pay-per-view even without Alvarez but you know what? With him on the card, had it been against Trout (26-0, 14 KOs) or somebody else, would have made it gigantic, as in hundreds of thousands of buys over 1 million, in my opinion.

    But Mayweather (43-0, 26 KOs) wouldn’t agree to fight Alvarez (41-0-1, 30 KOs), at least contractually before May 4. Mayweather supposedly said he would but wouldn’t put his signature to it. Alvarez rightfully felt that without a written guarantee there was no reason for him to lend his name, star power and economic muscle to Mayweather’s pay-per-view. Alvarez-Trout will get its own multi-million dollar license fee from Showtime and do its own seven-figure gate. It is better than an undercard fight.

    Don’t get me wrong -- had Alvarez-Trout been on May 4, I’d have been as happy as anyone. It would have been great for boxing fans to get that caliber fight on an undercard of a $70 pay-per-view.

    But I never really thought it would happen. Too good to be true because I never thought Mayweather would agree to fight Alvarez at this point.

    Maybe Mayweather will beat Guerrero (31-1-1, 18 KOs) and maybe Alvarez will beat Trout (both are legitimately tough fights on paper) and they will still fight in the fall. But without that guarantee, Alvarez basically said to hell with Mayweather and I don’t blame him.

    Why should he just take Mayweather’s word that he will fight him next? Why, with all those guaranteed fights on his new six-fight deal with Showtime PPV, would Mayweather fight perhaps the toughest opponent in the second fight of the deal and possibly mess up the rest of those huge money guarantees?

    Anyone who knows anything about network multi-fight deals knows that typically the biggest money fight -- when there is usually the most risk involved -– comes at the end of the deal after as much money has been sucked out of the deal as can be sucked.

    Besides, we’ve already seen how Mayweather moved the goal posts in his drawn out talks for a Manny Pacquiao fight. First it was drug testing (which he still harps on in interviews even though Pacquiao long agreed to it). When that got solved it was a date or venue that didn’t work for Mayweather. Then he refused a percentage split, only wanting to pay Pacquiao a set fee, which he knew was a non-starter. It was always going to be something and probably will with Alvarez too if he beats Trout.

    Alvarez, the 22-year-old Mexican star, always preferred being on his own show anyway but was willing to go on Mayweather’s undercard as long as he knew he had him next. He didn’t get that guarantee and so he will move on with his own card.

    “Mayweather has no word to support what he says. The contract was already within the terms and just was missing the signature,” Alvarez said. “He said yes, but nothing happened at the end. Floyd never signed anything. But in spite of all that I am happy with my fight and my own date. This is what I wanted from the beginning.

    “I have no need for Mayweather to impose conditions because I can have my own fans, my own event and my own history. I'm tired of being accessible to fight him, since he never was real in what he was talking. The truth is he does not want to fight me. I will continue doing my own history.”