Floyd Fans Unite

Mayweather aint no Zab Judah!!

 

FREDDY GOT OWNED ON HIS OWN THREAD IM OUT

 

common sense buddy. . .. Fraud got alot of critisism for turning down the Arum 8 mil offer, then all the sudden Fraud claims to get the exact same money offer to face Baldy? :roll: It was clearly an attempt to deflect this specific critisism. Goosen is not dumb, he knew this - but he would not confirm the 8 mil amount on record. Its a matter of putting 2 and 2 together.

 

Yeah but that is still an assumption any Floyd hater would make....

A Floyd fan would say the exact opposite with more validity, because the 8 million was actually said by one of the two parties involved...

There isn't enough info to draw a definitive conclusion for either position...

 

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its a conclusion anyone with common sense would make.

 

It would be common sense if everyone comprehended at the same level.

and your comprehension is obviously low due to you committing to a deductive fallacy in your line of reasoning...

In short you lack any substantial amount of support for your conclusion....In fact the only support you have is that Goosen did not answer a question....

You constantly prove how dumb you are on this site...

 

So you think Cotto would KO Mayweather quicker than he did Judah? I respect your opinions by all means but why do you think so?

 

SSM isn't in the same league as Mayweather, neither is Judah ... these guys are good fighters, but don't master the skill of boxing and their records show that.

Alot of these guys are just good at fighting and don't have the skill to beat a good boxer.

Shane has never beat a boxer and his only claim to fame was beating DLH, everyone else on his resume that came close to resembling a boxer beat him. At LW ... he was taller, stronger, and alot faster than his opponents. He never outboxed anyone and it shows in his record. Only having 7 fights go the distance and out of those 7 ... 4 were 12 round victories.

A true boxer relys more on his skill and ability ... they don't have to overwhelm their opponents and knock them out ... fighters who do that often find themselves in desperate situation - where they have to get a knockout to be victorious.

Shane has never outboxed anyone so I can't put him in the category of PBF -- if they ever fought Floyd would out box him en route to a UD victory.

Judah tasted the same fate and so did DLH ...

Cotto is no different ... a notorious slow starter, who often elects to brawl ... I don't see any reason why he's slated to be Floyd stiffest test when he's just a carbon copy of a past Floyd opponent.
He outbox SS but that was the only was he could survive on his feet and get the victory.

He cannot out box PBF ... he's too mechanical and doesn't have the proper movement to stay clear of those pot shots.

I see him getting broken down and stopped ... He can't hit what he can't catch ... I know for sure that Cotto has never seen a fighter like PBF ... he'll have the benefit of fighting Floyd and he was have the accomplishment of having fought the best fighter of his era ... he won't win though ... he's not fast enough ... he's a one handed fighter ... and he hasn't had the benefit of beating a world champion for his title.

He doesn't know what it takes to fight a guy who's defending his title and won't fold as easily as a guy fighting for a vacant. At times when guys fight for vacant titles ... its usually guys fighting for a title for the first time.

You can catch guys not expecting adjustments and no fear ... Cotto has never faced a guy as fast, accurrrate, or as defensive as PBF.

He's been to the well too many times and when he faces PBF - he will find that his well has run dry.

 

Everyone's arguement is that ... SSM is just as fast as PBF ... yeah and? ... speed is just a physical attribute. He's stronger than Floyd ... and there are alot of fighter that are stronger than Floyd that doesn't mean they have the same style or ability.

No one on Cotto's resume resembles Floyd's style ... he's never fought a fighter like that.

He's never fought a fighter that wasn't there to get hit ... all of his opponents elected to brawl with him and let him fight his type of fight ... Floyd is far from that type of fighter ... he's going to use every part of the ring and counter effectively.

Cotto's straight up style is tailor made for a guy like Floyd who's seen just about every style out there. He will make it a "thinking mans game" and make Cotto think in the ring ... once Cotto gets to thinking ... thats when he gets exposed to alot of accurrate "pot shots" ... Cotto takes his time to set up his punches and gets hit alot, he's also prone to cuts ...

Anyone who's seen PBF fight knows that you can't out think him in the ring and you can't cut against him because its a 90% chance that you're going to get stopped.

You've never seen Floyd get hit w/ a straight punch and have it be effective ... he sees the punches coming more times than not and already is planning on neutralizing it or blocking or ducking it.

This guys is too talented for Cotto and is only going to give an accurate blue print on how to beat him.

 

This is all speculation ... Floyd is more talented than Winky, Forrest, and Cotto.

Taking risks isn't apart of PBF's game ... he's a boxer ... who aims to win.

Yeah taking risks is exciting and entertaining but at the end of the day the goal is to win the fight by any means neccessary.

What makes you think that those guys beat Mayweather? because they're just as fast? ... just as strong or stronger? ... those are good attributes to have but if you don't have the tools to go along with it those attributes are useless. Someone can always neutralize those attributes if they have the correct game plan and boxing skill.

This is a sport and there's strategy involved ... if you come into a fight just thinking you're going to overwhelm you opponent than you will lose. You can't beat down everyone ... you have guys out there that know what you bring to the table and won't let you get off anything effective.

Winky got his fame off outboxing two brawlers in Tito and Shane ... Forrest got his name off outboxing a brawler in Shane Mosley. None of those guys were long reigning champions ...

 

all counted and ready to go,,,you may fill a small jumbo for the flight to manchester next year,but 35,ooo uuummhhhhh!!

 

Yeah I bet you did ...

The fights that he had w/ Wright and Forrest weren't 50/50 ... he was the favorite coming into fights w/ those guys.

I don't get what you're saying ... he never beat a boxer ... you can't name any great LW that he beat during his reign and none of those guys he beat at LW stand a chance against PBF. You know that SSM at 5'9 was tall for a lightweight and fairly tall for a WW.

Forrest didn't do much but jab and clinch ... if Forrest can beat this guy that easily -- then what makes you think Floyd would have any trouble. Yeah Forrest is tall and long ... but like I said those are only physical attributes ... which means nothing but that he's has the advantage during tale of the tape.

Forrest followed up that victory over shane and lost by TKO to Mayorga ... blamed it on his bum shoulder (legit) but followed up by taking him the distance and still losing.

Winky hasn't won a significant fight since beat Shane ... Yeah he beat Tito, but that wasn't that hard to do - given his style ...

Floyd would easily out box SSM ... I don't know why you guys are giving him soooo much credit like he's a great boxer or something ... he's a fighter that couldn't box.

The same goes for Cotto ... all of a sudden he should be considered the champ because he beat SSM, Judah, Urkal, and Quintana? those guys are no where near a force in the division and were fighting based on their names (when SSM and Judah come to mind)
Urkal and Quintana are just gatekeepers in the making and we'll soon see that before the year's overwith.

How are those victories so great? ... when those guys were there for the taking and he didn't beat any of those guys for anything but a name on his resume. When people look further into it and know how those guys were -- they would see that those guys weren't the same guys that they were used to seeing.