Floyd fans: Why should Floyd get credit for beating a *cheat?

This is a legitimate question. I will give Floyd all the credit if he beats Pac. Simply because I back what I say, if before a fight I think a guy stands a good chance and he looses, credit to the opponent. Unlike other posters here who seems to do a 180 in their opinion AFTER the fight.

So my question is, for all the floyd fans claiming Pac is on drugs and cheating. Why should YOU give Floyd credit for beating Pac? Surely, quite simply, by your logic he beat a guy who was only great because he was cheating, a guy who could then NOT cheat for this particular fight.

Someone explain.

 

Obviously you won't get an answer to that. But in reality Floyd should get a lot of credit if he beats Pac, and vice versa. Both guys are in or near their primes , and they're the two best fighters in the world. It's not going to be an easy fight for either of them.

 

Aren't you addressing Floyd nuthuggers who just believe any ridiculous thing Roger and Floyd Sr say?lol I'm a Floyd fan and will give either man full credit if they win. Pacquiao hasn't been proven guilty so he's clean in my view and a great fighter. Shouldn't be an easy fight for Floyd but I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Then again, Pacquiao could win but I don't see it happening but it's still a possibility. Full credit to both fighters if they fight each other and also full credit to the winner. Come after the fight if it does happen, I should be here.

 

Pac should get credit. Pac fans have made no it no secret they think Floyd is a great great fighter, skillwise atleast. So Pac beating Floyd is a great achievement.

A lot of Floyd fans have made out that Pac is this 1 dimensional featherweight brawler who is able to throw over 1000 punches due to EPO, get up to WW due to steroids, walk through punches due to A-side Meth and some other form of unknown PEDS only the philippines know of that teaches you skills and punch harder. So without those drugs, why should Floyd get credit for beating this cheat?

 

I won't give floyd credit for ****, ever.
He's a squandered talent.

 

The huggers know who they are yet nowhere to be found in this thread with a logical explanation. I didnt wanna use names like *****s and huggers cos I wanted this to be civilised, but targets know who they are.

 

Also, how would anyone even be able to confirm that pac is cheating or not?

He's smart enough to know not to cycle when there are drug tests in place.

 

You acknowledge Pac as a great fighter, then you should give Floyd credit. Cant back out of your word.

The message is clear to the Floyd huggers:

Either Pac is a great fighter who achieved what he has achieved naturally and therefore you should acknowledge that so Floyd is truely beating a great fighter, thus its a great win....

OR

Pac is shite, a cheater and so therefore its a shite win as its a cheater who could not cheat.

Dont contradict yourselves like your boy, which is it?

Or is this making too much sense?

 

If you dont believe in the testing, then why are you backing Floyd with it, you should be saying scrap the test as its worthless.

Pac is taking the test, therefore he wont and cant cheat for this fight through training.

So give me a logical answer and stop dodging the real question.

 

This is a silly argument.

Each fight is an individual body of work. If a man was caught cheating during a period covering multiple bodies of work? Sure, say those bodies of work are suspect. However in this case Mosley followed the best testing protocol available and passed with flying colors. To call a guy a cheat when he took the stringent testing is just silly.

Now if you want to go back and say, "Well Mosley was never worthy because his place in history is due to drugs and not skill?" You could have had an argument. Then again, fans make fights not skills and the fans spoke by buying generating 1.4 million PPV buys. So again your argument doesn't hold up.

Then, since you are obviously a *******, the fact that Pac WON'T test makes his whole career suspect. Especially past 135 pounds. :deal

 

Wrong. Your argument is flawed. You can use your argument ONLY to argue Mosley's place in history. No more. No less.

Skills or difficulty of a match up are all subjective. So there is no real answer on "should a fighter get credit for X opponent". Fans are the real engine that ranks fighters not skills. So as long as the fans buy? He should get credit.

So to your question Pac is the one who needs to take the tests, dispel all doubts, and PERFORM! Mosley took the tests and was unable to perform. Will the same hold true for Pac?

 

What are you babbling on about *****?

Mosley's been caught with drugs in 2003, he proved to be elite at WW by smashing Margo to bits, beating Collazo and tough fight with Cotto. Floyd got a lot of credit for beating him.

Pac beats Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, drugs, drugs, drugs. No one expected him to actually go above LW and beat WW's and since their all proven wrong, they can only point to drugs.

Fair enough, but the logic will then apply that if this man is only great because he is currently on drugs, then why such a great win for beating this man who cannot take drugs?

Like I said, either you believe this man is a great fighter not on drugs therefore its a great win, or you believe hes a cheat who cant cheat therefore not a great win. Which is it?

 

It helps the sport to make it harder for people to cheat. I really don't care if a few pacfags want to make their hero an exception. Yes, I know Floyd is probably doing it for personal reasons.

Shane Mosley gets credit for whooping Margarito's AZZ after he got caught trying to cheat. In emmanuel's case no one is really going to know for sure whether he cheats or not.

If joyboys believe pac is cheating, and after he gets his AZZ whooped by Floyd they don't give Floyd credit then that's their problem. If the boxing world gave Mosley credit rocking a confirmed cheat then it should be able to give it the man who schools a suspect one.

Why are you making excuses to discredit Floyd's victory when the fight isn't even signed yet?

 

Nothing to explain. Neither PAC nor Floyd have ever been caught cheating. And Floyd hasn't beat PAC. End of thread

 

There is nothing subjective about this!

3 exams, you vs me.

Exam 1. I cheat, I score 100. You score 90.
Exam 2. I cheat, I score 100, you score 95.

Exam 3. I cant cheat, I score 20, yo score 95. Great win? NO. You beat an idiot who all this time was only getting high scores because he was cheating!