Floyd fans: Why should Floyd get credit for beating a *cheat?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    the only argument I could see is that they would say is "everyone else needs drugs to be good but Floyd can do it without drugs." But they can't really say Floyd has any good wins if they are always shitting on his opposition.

    The Floyd fans were the loudest voices calling Mosley shot after he beat Cotto and before he lost to Margarito.
     
  2. rabmag

    rabmag Dead Game Full Member

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    Read between the lines, dude. I don't think he's saying that HE would discredit Floyd's victory. He's just using the logic of 90% of Floyd fans, who unsurprisingly turn out to be dismissive of Pacquiao's ring success or attribute it to steroids. So using their logic...if Pacquiao is such a bum, or only successful because of the steroids, as they say...why on earth should anyone give Floyd credit?

    Personally, I think both are exceptional fighters. Yes, I find Pacquiao's refusal to take Olympic style blood testing a little disturbing, but at the same time I can't say that is proof enough of him being a steroid user.

    I think dangerousity will agree with me in saying that if Pacquiao wins, it'll be an amazing win. If Floyd wins, it'll be an equally amazing win. Both fighters are unparalelled at the moment.
     
  3. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I will give Floyd all the credit in the world. This is not about me dissing FLoyd or Pac or agenda's, this is about calling people out.

    I stick by my words. I thought Mosley was a good fighter before the fight, I credit Floyd for winning after the fight and not make excuses thereafter.

    If you think Pac is a great fighter now, fine, I do, then give floyd all the credit after he beats Pac.

    For all the people saying Pac is a cheat, why should YOU, I mean YOU, not him, her or me cos we all share different opinions, im talking about you as a person claiming Pac is a cheat now, why should you give floyd credit for beating a cheat who could not cheat?
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Simple, if Pac is a cheat than that means his FOTD and all of his FOTY awards are fraudulant. That would also mean that Mayweather is head and shoulders above everyone in his era and that guys need to take PEDs in order to almost get on his level. In essence, because Pacquiao is the supposed to be the only guy near his level, devaluing Pacquiao actually elevates Mayweather.
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I don't know, but I do know if Mosley got credit from the boxing world for beating down a guy who was literally caught trying to cheat than Floyd should get it for manny.

    Manny has never been caught cheating or attempting it.
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    word.

    These guys understand, their just trying to dodge the question cos they cant come up with a logical answer.
     
  7. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just because someone is shite doesnt make you great? If Pac was a fraud, PBF simply beat a fraud, yes that makes him the clear best, but it dont change the fact that by this logic, he beat a fraud therefore the win is nothing great. He is the best by default due to a discovery of a cheater, rather than beating another fellow great fighter.
     
  8. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    This. After he beat Mosley I can't critique Floyd anymore. Beating Judah @ WW was still a good win but beating Mosley was a great win.
     
  9. Amp

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    Loi.......You my friend...are a "HATER". Lol
     
  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    So let's get this straight. Dangerouscity thinks if manny is cheating than ANYONE who whoops his AZZ shouldn't get credit for beating a lie?
     
  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    People with commonsense has already taken that into equation, Manny has never been caught therefore the default assumption is hes just a great fighter, and so therefore Floyd will be beating a great fighter, making it an epic win.

    The question is not posed for those with common sense, its for those who claims outright as if its fact, parading it in these forums that Pac is in fact on roids and is actually a bum.
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    If Pac's only good cause he's cheating, and then someone beats Pac when he's not cheating, then what's the big deal?
     
  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dangerousity thinks that IF YOU believe he is cheating, then anyone who beats him when he cant cheat due to tests, shouldnt give that fighter credit for beating a cheater who couldnt cheat.

    Dangerousity meanwhile will give all the credit in the world to anyone who beats a great fighter in pac.
     
  14. TheJuggernaut

    TheJuggernaut Hitchslap Full Member

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    Floyd fans always shoot themselves in the foot. They discredit the **** out of all Floyds opponets before the fight, then try to give him all the credit in the world when he wins.
    "Hatton is a short armed midget who rund headfirst into punches, May will destroy him!"
    "Mosley was outboxed by Cotto! He has no head movement!"
    "Pac is on steroids and A side meth!"
    Let someone say the exact same thing they said after the fight..."You haters give Floyd no credit!!"
    There are some smart pbf fans on this board, but the lot of them are ****in idiots.
     
  15. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    but that is the beauty of it, we get to see if Pacquiao is a cheat or not. If his muscles deflate and he has a pot belly by fight night, well then there is your answer.