Floyd: Fleet-Footed, Fradey-Cat Fraud

slender4 · May 19, 2014

Floyd Mayweather 46-0.

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Any questions?

Pimp C · May 20, 2014

progamer said: ↑

pedjr only fights bums and washed ups.

you get any advantage on him, he is gonna drain you, bloat you, cheat you, force you wear pillows all the while he is juiced to the gills under usada.

no wonder pedjr is ducking pac and vada.
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You're almost as bad as farmboxer you sound like a robot.

robert80 · May 20, 2014

Can you beat floyd is the question keyboard warrior!!! Simple eh?

Pimp C · May 20, 2014

robert80 said: ↑

Can you beat floyd is the question keyboard warrior!!! Simple eh?
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You've never gotten a response to that question yet.

dellgriff80 · Jun 12, 2015

Floyd had no intention of causing damage to Manny Pacquiao, it was never gonna be anything more than a safe, tactical padding of the scorcards, without ever moving either his arms or feet out of a defensive mode long enough to inflict any kind of offense, thus gaurenteeing a non-event fight. For Floyd to do this is an astronomical disservice to the Boxing public, who've longed for the "fight of the century" fervently for six years.

One thing is clear: Floyd's play-it-safe, non-combatant defenseive posturing can nullify (on official scorecards anyways) ANY fighters offense. He has the supreme ability to inflict enough long-range love taps without ever straying from a defensive position long enough to force judges to score rounds for him. It's a monumental slap in the face for any fans.

Sure, the old 'hit and not get hit' argument, but fans of mayweather consistently fail to provide a coherent appraisal of his virtue as a fighter.
They can't. Mayweather is but a virtuous NON-combatant, if such a paradox could exist.

What great fighter in history has their signature, devastating finishing move known as 'long-range pot-shotting'. They wouldn't. Cause no fighter would ever be proud of such a skill. It's the tools of a coward.

canucks9314 · Jun 12, 2015

dellgriff80 said: ↑

What great fighter in history has their signature, devastating finishing move known as 'long-range pot-shotting'. They wouldn't. Cause no fighter would ever be proud of such a skill. It's the tools of a coward.
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Roy Jones Jr.?

boxingvet303 · Jun 12, 2015

TheVrominator said: ↑

Nicely written. Many of the points you made are why I rate someone like James Toney much higher than Floyd, he didn't even NEED his feet to move around the ring, he could just stand in front of someone and destroy them without having to "get in and get out." Never mind that he didn't cherry-pick.

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I like James Toney a lot. I recently saw an interview with him talking about the brain damage he's received in the ring.

Enigmadanks · Jun 12, 2015

dellgriff80 said: ↑

Floyd had no intention of causing damage to Manny Pacquiao, it was never gonna be anything more than a safe, tactical padding of the scorcards, without ever moving either his arms or feet out of a defensive mode long enough to inflict any kind of offense, thus gaurenteeing a non-event fight. For Floyd to do this is an astronomical disservice to the Boxing public, who've longed for the "fight of the century" fervently for six years.

One thing is clear: Floyd's play-it-safe, non-combatant defenseive posturing can nullify (on official scorecards anyways) ANY fighters offense. He has the supreme ability to inflict enough long-range love taps without ever straying from a defensive position long enough to force judges to score rounds for him. It's a monumental slap in the face for any fans.

Sure, the old 'hit and not get hit' argument, but fans of mayweather consistently fail to provide a coherent appraisal of his virtue as a fighter.
They can't. Mayweather is but a virtuous NON-combatant, if such a paradox could exist.

What great fighter in history has their signature, devastating finishing move known as 'long-range pot-shotting'. They wouldn't. Cause no fighter would ever be proud of such a skill. It's the tools of a coward.
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He's an old grandmaster at this stage in his career. He fights in the same manner as the greatest of pugilists like Gans, Benny, Packey, Pep and Sweet pea. His ring generalship is really on another level, the way he can suffocate opponents punches, his elusiveness in the pocket or from distance, the way he clenches in holds and knows exactly how to wrap up his oppositions arms effectively, the way he's able to spin his opposition around when he's pressed on the ropes for uncomfortably long periods of time. All this ring experience he's picked up in his almost 20 years as a pro has added on to his ring generalship.

If you saw him at the lighterweights, you'd know he wasn't a potshotting type of fighter. It wasn't really until he became a PPV star that he became a lot more cautious with his offense. Maybe it was his plan all along, to prolong his time as the PPV king and milk out as much money as he possibly could.

But since becoming a POV star in 2007, it's not like he's fought tomato cans. Everyone he's fought was either universally recognized as a top 10 fighter P4P or worse case, a top 2-3 fighter in the division at the time he fought them. I'm pretty sure he's beaten around 6 or 7 HOF bound fighters since his fight with DLH in 2007.

He's changed his style from the lighter weights to help prolong his career and he's done an incredible job with it. As you so eloquently put it, he can nullify ANYONE's offense. it's not up to him to make the fight, it's up to the opposition. Maidana brought the fight to him in their first match and was rewarded with a rematch and another big payday.

At this point, people need to accept he's probably not going to lose and just to let him retire quietly into the next chapter in his life after he picks up his 50th win.

dellgriff80 · Jun 13, 2015

Enigmadanks said: ↑

He's an old grandmaster at this stage in his career. He fights in the same manner as the greatest of pugilists like Gans, Benny, Packey, Pep and Sweet pea. His ring generalship is really on another level, the way he can suffocate opponents punches, his elusiveness in the pocket or from distance, the way he clenches in holds and knows exactly how to wrap up his oppositions arms effectively, the way he's able to spin his opposition around when he's pressed on the ropes for uncomfortably long periods of time. All this ring experience he's picked up in his almost 20 years as a pro has added on to his ring generalship. Floyd can ride off on his bicycle toward that big '0' in the sunset, but he's never EVER going to receive the "credit" he "deserves", but hey, those are the breaks when you bribe and cheat your way to "greatness".

If you saw him at the lighterweights, you'd know he wasn't a potshotting type of fighter. It wasn't really until he became a PPV star that he became a lot more cautious with his offense. Maybe it was his plan all along, to prolong his time as the PPV king and milk out as much money as he possibly could.

But since becoming a POV star in 2007, it's not like he's fought tomato cans. Everyone he's fought was either universally recognized as a top 10 fighter P4P or worse case, a top 2-3 fighter in the division at the time he fought them. I'm pretty sure he's beaten around 6 or 7 HOF bound fighters since his fight with DLH in 2007.

He's changed his style from the lighter weights to help prolong his career and he's done an incredible job with it. As you so eloquently put it, he can nullify ANYONE's offense. it's not up to him to make the fight, it's up to the opposition. Maidana brought the fight to him in their first match and was rewarded with a rematch and another big payday.

At this point, people need to accept he's probably not going to lose and just to let him retire quietly into the next chapter in his life after he picks up his 50th win.
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He can nullify anyone's offense so long as the third man in the ring - after having been compensated nicely - prohibits any and all infighting - nicely according to script as determined by Mayweather-Ellerbe-Haymon. Another über-cowardly stipulation is to write in the contract to take away even perfectly legal gloves that might give an opponent an edge. Stipulate an enormous ring size for maximum escape routes for the track star masquerading as a pugilist. Oh, and stipulations prohibiting a routine treatment that Manny requested for the bum shoulder. Stipulations. Padding scorecards. Rigid, excessive demands within contracts. Rigging the local boxing system illegally with corrypt promoters masquerading as "advisers"

Lady Girl · Jun 13, 2015

dellgriff80 said: ↑

Floyd had no intention of causing damage to Manny Pacquiao, it was never gonna be anything more than a safe, tactical padding of the scorcards, without ever moving either his arms or feet out of a defensive mode long enough to inflict any kind of offense, thus gaurenteeing a non-event fight. For Floyd to do this is an astronomical disservice to the Boxing public, who've longed for the "fight of the century" fervently for six years.

One thing is clear: Floyd's play-it-safe, non-combatant defenseive posturing can nullify (on official scorecards anyways) ANY fighters offense. He has the supreme ability to inflict enough long-range love taps without ever straying from a defensive position long enough to force judges to score rounds for him. It's a monumental slap in the face for any fans.

Sure, the old 'hit and not get hit' argument, but fans of mayweather consistently fail to provide a coherent appraisal of his virtue as a fighter.
They can't. Mayweather is but a virtuous NON-combatant, if such a paradox could exist.

What great fighter in history has their signature, devastating finishing move known as 'long-range pot-shotting'. They wouldn't. Cause no fighter would ever be proud of such a skill. It's the tools of a coward.
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markq · Jun 13, 2015

in other words, :|:|:| Manny got schooled 118-110
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blackbolt396 · Jun 13, 2015

dellgriff80 said: ↑

These observations are a bit late, as the Maidana fight was weeks ago, but here's my assessment of that fight and Floyd's career, generally.

Floyd Mayweather has made some very telling statements around the time of the Marcos Maidana fight and at other times that indicate he doesn't share the same priorities as virtually all other fighters.

Just prior to the Maidana fight, Floyd expressed concern over "getting a concussion" from Marcos Maidana's power. You never, ever, give your opponent that psycological edge - of verbalizing your fear of their advantages.

Another damning statement Floyd has made (around the time of the Guererro fight) was in response to criticisms that he doesn't go for the finish once he's outclassed his opponent. Floyd, who takes out large bets on himself, said "I'm not going to jeapordize my big payday with unnecessary risks at the end of the fight".

And there you have his true priorities: no risk-maximum reward.

Floyd talks the talk, speaks the language of 'dawg'. He often states how he's going to knock out so-and-so. How gullible does he think we are? I've noticed in the last few years that boxing pundits no longer offer up the Floyd-knockout scenario any more while they're tossing around possible outcomes to his scheduled fights. They KNOW Floyd will no longer take such risks -the risks that come with committing to a devastating offensive game. And for that, Floyd can never wear the same mantle of 'champion' that Leonard, Hearns, Holyfield, Ali and many others wore; you know, those people Floyd insists aren't the same calibur as he. All of the all-time-greats, even the defense-oriented ones, had times when they threw caution to the wind after smelling blood in the water, and went after a stunned opponent to dispatch a guy. Floyd won't take his arms from the defensive stance long enough to execute such an attack; he's an ****-retentive, safety-first, long-distance pot-shotter. Yes - in terms of safety-first pot-shotters, Floyd is THE best there ever was. But in terms of sheer boxing greatness, that simply DOES NOT spell a legacy of greatness and supremecy.

For Floyd is not in the 'hurt' business, as virtually all other fighters are. He's not even in the 'pain' business. Floyd's strictly in the point-scoring business. When the greats of old smelled blood, they went for the kill. Floyd, in his ultra-evasive/elusive style, will not take the same chances in finishing off opponents that they took. Floyd avoids this at all costs, for his intense fear of finding himself out of position or off-balance - the kinds of things that result by throwing full-body-commit punches. Floyd throws strictly arm punches. And in the low-low weight classes, these were sufficient to get the T.K.O. But now in the big-leagues, these will no longer dispatch anyone, and Floyd knows this. Boxing writers know this.

Stephen A. Smith once lamented that it was only by God's mercy [for all their opposition] that He didn't give both Floyd Mayweather and Pernell Whitaker heavy hands. But Smith was way-off: it is the evade-at-all-costs style of these men that prohibits them from committing fully to an offense that puts men on their backs.

So Floyd needs to quit talking the talk. He needs to put a lid on how he will be 'looking for the knockout' (the way he said of Canelo Alvarez). He needs to be honest:
"I'm going to run up the scores against this guy -so much so, i'll get to dance away the final round", he should say.

Because that's what Floyd has always did: when he piled up a ton of points long-distance pot-shotting all night, he would take off the final 1-2 rounds. Fans paid for an entire fight only to see this ****-retentive non-combattant seal his victory by....running. 'Ballerina Jackrabbit' is what Floyd is. For he's light-footed and graceful as a ballerina, fleet-footed and evasive like a flushed jackrabbit. And just to keep the point-counter tallying, he uses his extreme reach to pot-shot his opponent during his 12-round stanza on the backwards treadmill. The Greatest? GTFO. One word comes to mind: 'Clown'. Dancin' Clown. Jibber-jabbing, shuckin'-and-jivin', fradey-cat clown.

Even when his career just barely started, Floyd affirmed the sentiments I'm detailing here to the HBO crew.

Floyd's knockout days are long, long over. If we look back prior to the sucker-punch-while-apoligizing knockout of Victor Ortiz, we are reminded of the Hatton fight, where Floyd got to double-team Ricky Hatton with his well-coerced, bought-and-paid-for assistant in the ring - Joe Cortez. We saw Floyd get the TKO in that fight, but almost nobody speaks of how it was the high-velocity collision into the turnbuckle -not Floyd's power- the put Hatton in serious danger. Watch it in slow motion; watch the torque of the impact, and you'll see what I mean. All credit to Floyd - getting his opponent to knock HIMSELF out. Call it, 'effective evasiveness'.

Floyd stated he could've made the Maidana fight alot easier, and he was referring to whas the shameful indictment I've detailed here: that he can put the fans asleep doing a fleet-footed, pot-shotting, chicken-chase exhibition. He knows he could send fans prematurely to the exits with another Baldomir performance. But such a financially-savvy business man he is, he knows this would be like career suicide, especially after he always 'talks up a fight' prior to said fights. But Floyd's clown-career is just about over, and his gawd-awful style will all but guarentee his precious undefeated record -the one he hangs his identity and ego upon - will stay pristine, where he can ride off into the sunset as the most boring and forgettable undefeated fighter boxing has ever known.

So Floyd, it's high-time to stop talkin the talk. Stop spouting the language of 'dawg'. Stop calling yourself a 'fighter', rather a 'point-scorer'. It is then -and only then- you'll get the respect you 'deserve'. Stop lying about 'giving the fans what they want to see'. If you were as great as you boasted, you could give them a truly great show, but you're not, and you can't, because your style is both ugly and gawd-awful, and only -ONLY- translates to victories ON PAPER.
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Bull**** too the highest degree.

blackbolt396 · Jun 13, 2015

markq said: ↑

in other words, :|:|:| Manny got schooled 118-110
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I will say it again **** Pac and his fans ,make this clear they can all go too hell.

Lady Girl · Jun 13, 2015

blackbolt396 said: ↑

Bull**** too the highest degree.
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poor flo-o cant face reality. its too hurtful:|:rofl

blackbolt396 · Jun 13, 2015

Lady Girl said: ↑

poor flo-o cant face reality. its too hurtfull:|:rofl
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No, tired of all you fake ass boxing fans again go too hell. 118-110 forever .

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