Floyd has beaten all linear WW champions

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    cotto, clottey, delahoya and mosley are much better set of opponents and greater wins than floyd's judah, baldomir, mosley, hatton and jmm at welter. and pac did it in a much shorter time frame than floyd. the only linear he beat was baldomir.
     
  2. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't get why people are talking about Margarito

    Manny fought an old version, at junior middle

    Like giving Mayweather credit for beating a peak De la Hoya at Welter
     
  3. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you actually believe this, I feel sorry for you.

    You don't believe it. As a fan you just feel the need to say something like this to make you feel better.

    Let's go through your claim

    Cotto - was coming off terrible performances. Including being destroyed by Margarito

    De la Hoya - so shot, I'm not even going to bother going into it

    Clottey - lost to Baldomir

    Mosely - coming off a Mayweather schooling


    Let's look at Mayweathers

    Baldomir - unbeaten at 147 for about 7 years, and ring champion

    Judah - coming off a loss, but Mayweather only fought him as that's the fight people wanted. Still PFP number 9

    Mosely - coming off the most dominating performance of his career. Linear champ. PFP number 3

    Hatton - PFP number 4. Legit double weight world champ. Unbeaten


    You know,
     
  4. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I cannot believe that I'm still seeing this idea that Floyd avoided JOSH CLOTTEY. Even if you hate the guy, even if you don't think his welterweight resume is the best, and even if you think wanted nothing to do with Margarito or Cotto, mentioning Clottey's name at all in this discussion makes you sound like nothing more than a Top Rank apparatchik.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

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    everybody knows that msoley and cotto are both 1 and 2 at the time when floyd is fighting jmm and pac is fighting cotto. just look at the ring rankings. clottey was a clear #5 behind mosley, pac, cotto and berto, again by ring magazine. a case could be made at #4 since most would rank clottey ahead of berto. mosley was #3 ranked welter when pac fought him just behind pac and ortiz, again by ring magazine.

    so where did you get your rankings ceej, floydmayweather.com? :D
     
  6. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Claiming Floyd avoided Clottey, Margarito and Cotto is just like claiming Manny is ducking Martinez, Bradley, Khan etc etc

    Manny's making decisions not to face the opponents pundits, fans, and the like think he should. Because they can't pay him

    Same as mayweather
     
  7. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    MOSLEY WAS NOT LINEAL CHAMP !!!

    he beat Margo who beat cotto no lineage there at all.

    Floyd retired the lineage and Mosley was no 1 CONTENDER
     
  8. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Links? Or did you make it up

    Cotto was not number 2 in the division. He was coming off a devastating, career ending loss, and a pathetic comeback at 147. He was ranked 4

    If you're claiming Clottey was 5, behind mosley, pac, cotto and berto, then you must be claiming that Mayweather was not in the top 5 at the time.

    Floyd was number 3 in the division when he faced Mosely.
     
  9. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao has faced Josh Clottey

    Which makes him the most feared opponent of all time
     
  10. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's the majority view but some people believe Margarito-Mosley was a 1-3 matchup that started a new lineage.
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    wow! talk about some spinning here. :lol:

    i will just try one, when does hatton became p4p #4?
     
  12. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Floyd had fought Margarito, you'd just have had 50 million haters saying he ducked the ring champion..............

    Margarito had already lost 4 times, convincingly, when he was calling out Mayweather. And went on to lose 3 more times afterwards.

    He's getting towards bum territory himself
     
  13. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's all cumulative

    Margarito at his peak, got destroyed by a guy Mayweather completely humilated

    Which detracts from Margarito

    Marg lost 4 times before he called Mayweather out, and 3 times afterwards.

    What more do you want
     
  14. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But they are simply wrong and ring did not sanction it either plus Mosley never fought in nearly a year and a half and contenders get moved without fighting

    Its simply incorrect
     
  15. motorcity

    motorcity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Forget 18 months. He unretired in 2009 and still didn't fight none of them.