Floyd has had OSDT 3 times & randomly tested 32 times!

I'd like to be able to form a stronger opinion, but I don't necessarily trust the results.

 

Me saying that VADA and USADA follow WADA to the tooth has nothing to do with either organization presenting themselves in a positive way.

So your post is void. Has nothing to do with that. atsch

You do know that WADA does not do any testing of their own don't you? They outsource to agencies like VADA and USADA to name 2.

So again, I'm just showing you that they are the same because you said they weren't; you also came up with the conclusion (which you later blamed for being at work) that VADA has caught fighters that USADA did not catch.

So it has literally, nothing to do with being positive or not. I'm simply telling you that they follow WADA to the tooth. That was my original argument.

Then you went on about how they test differently for olympians over other athletes. I showed you that, other than the year around testing, the testing they get is the EXACT SAME.

 

Other than the "year around" item, the tests are exactly the same.

In the meantime he grandfathered all of it into boxing.

 

No. Floyd doesn't do OSDT which is 24/7/365. Period. End of. Not even debatable.

 

I'd agree with that. The problem for me is that, while I care enough to complain on a boxing forum, I don't quite have time to go above and beyond to be able to form a firm, non-sceptical opinion, that I would to form. Fortunately I have more profitable ways to spend my time and on that note, I am going to go and do just that.

 

Irrelevant really. Everything else is exactly the same. If you go on their websites you can see that it is still considered OSDT.

Don't take my word for it, do your own research and check for yourself.

They still test using the same testing protocols, policies, procedures, etc...

 

Well then you are on a boxing forum where fans will go and examine and review this stuff, and you'll have to accept that you'll be at a handicap when debating with them for the simple reason that "you don't have the time," and they do.:good

No hard feelings though.

 

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why does he retire for a year and then get tested when he announces he is back ? why does he retire

 

The statement about presenting themselves in a certain light is merely a comment on using text from their website as concrete evidence is not something that is necessarily 100% perfect. Maybe I'm just not trusting enough?

As for WADA testing, I never said they did.

WADA outsourcing? Do WADA pay VADA and USADA to do the tests, because that's what outsourcing means.

I know that your original argument is that VADA and USADA follow the code laid out by WADA. My only argument is that, while I agree that they say they follow the code, that I am open to the possibility that follow the code 'to the tooth' may not be all it seems when the corrupt world of boxing is involved.

As for that last part. That is your mistake, I never mentioned Olympic athletes at all. You are thinking of someone else.

I'm done. Have fun.

 

So, to cover their axes they re-labled it? Oh well. Maybe I can put up a website and declare myself wealthy be redefining the terms.

 

100% true......Floyd is the person who drew attention to this issue of better drug testing in boxing..... His intentions are highly questionable as no one really believes he did this to "clean up the sport" like he claimed....but the cause is honorable no matter how they manifested or who started the movement.

Regardless of who Nonito is doing his Olympic style testing with or under the supervision of.......he's still doing what a lot of folks asked of Floyd, who labeled his method of random testing as Olympic Style knowing good and well that it wasn't. It was clever but very misleading for fans who don't know about the testing protocol for the Olympics.

 

Your done yet you failed to provide any source to back up what your saying.atsch

Won this one.