Floyd has never faced the best at welterweight?

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Where did you get that idea. I said Ortiz and Hatton had many fights at WW. Did that go over your head? :patsch

    140.1-147 is WW right?
     
  2. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What were the 3 biggest WW each ?
     
  3. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Why would that matter? Any fight taking place between 140.1 - 147 is a WW fight.

    Deal with it. :deal
     
  4. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Here goes the eze rewriting history again.

    Hatton during his first 7 or 8 fights always comes in overweight for a 140 pound fight and suddenly he becomes welterweight.

    141 a few times, 142 a few times and suddenly he is a welterweight. And against opponents who weigh almost in that range too.

    My first time to encounter welterweights dieting consistently to be in the lower range of welterweight division.

    But be wise it is eze, let him float his own weird ideas. He has a separate world of his own.
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :lol:

    Pejavan re writing the rules.

    140.1-147 is not WW anymore. :rofl
     
  6. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    What division were the fights sanctioned?


    That's right! Answer that question.


    Because if the fights were sanctioned as juniorwelter, regardless if you come at 142, it is still a junior welter fight, you just came overweight.

    When donaire fought at sanctioned 115 against an opponent who came in at 118, was donaire fighting for 115 and the opponent in a different division?

    Once again, what division was the fight sanctioned?

    Done replying to you! You live really in your own bizarre world.
     
  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I don't know. Neither do you.


    Completely false. This is wrong. If Fighter A weighs in at 140, and Fighter B comes in over that weight. It is thus a catchweight fight at WW. It is no longer a JR WW fight.




    Catchweight fight at the weight above.

    You seem to want to re write rules to suit your own needs which are false.

    Weighing ABOVE the weight class limit, thus pushes you into the next weight division. This is a fact. According to YOU NOW. You can weigh above the weight division but still be sanctioned. :rofl False buddy.

    Good try though.
     
  8. Exactabox

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    Lol. So they have no noteworthy wins at WW yet
    they are more worthy than Cotto,marg, Pwill, pac and clottey were lol.
     
  9. eze

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    When did I say this?

    I was merely pointing out that they've both had numerous fights at WW, which you claimed that both of those two combined had two wins.
     
  10. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    So you want to be technical!

    Okay here it is.

    If you come in overweight, you are given 2 hours to retry and make weight. If you fail to do so, the option

    A. In a championship fight, the guilty party can not become the champion if he wins. Assuming of course the other party agrees to fight the overweight fighter. However, the lighter fighter wins, then he becomes or still the champ.

    B. The other fighter may refuse to fight.

    Sanctions will be imposed, as well as the bigger fighter has to wear bigger gloves. Etc.

    But, contrary to you catchweight scenario, the sanction weight division does not change. Otherwise, they will be fighting for a belt that someone owns in a different division. Catchweights are not made during weigh ins. It is contracted before the fight.

    If you signed to fight at welterweight, you fight at welterweight. If you failed to make weight, you don't fight at junior middleweight. That is why there are contracts. It is still a welterweight even if you are 1 pound above welterweight.

    And since you are as ignorant as I am about the contracts in hatton's first 10 fights, you simply don't conclude it is welterweight fights considering that hatton weighed 141and 142 on several occassions, quite far from welter limit of 147.
     
  11. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    You don't even know what divisions the fight were sanctioned as you claimed yet you still are so sure those were welterweight fights?
     
  12. eze

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    If you fail to make weight, the fight turns into a catch weight fight at the NEXT limit up. This is a fact.



    140.1-147 is WW this is a fight, this is something you and other diehard Pac fans argued during the catchweight ordeal.

    Deal with it. :deal
     
  13. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Whatever floats your boat!

    So when they don't make weight, it becomes a catchweight? That is my first time to hear this. I must have slept during the WBC convention in cancun.
     
  14. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    According to Pejavan.


    140.1-147 is no longer WW. :lol:
     
  15. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Who said it is not?

    But if you come in a junior welter sanctioned fight at 141, did you fight for welterweight sanctioned fight?

    Can I put a win at welterweight in case I won?

    That is a simPle question that makes you 140.00000009 pounds argument moot and academic.