Floyd haters: Isn't it about time to discuss him in the same breath as SRR?

Peoplr always bring up duran and leonard 2 . In these threads i take a fighter at his best and duran didnt turn up in that fight . At his best i think he beatd floyd and its just my opinion . I respect ur point . To me duran is better.

 

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Floyd is better as a whole. As in when you add up all the strenghts and weaknesses, who comes out on top.

 

Dont start with ur 50- 0 many fighters go past 50 unbeaten . Chavez for example . Jones went 50- 0 in my mind or 49'-0.

 

Floyd doesn't fight like Leonard. Do you seriously think he'd have mocked Duran and showboated like Ray did?

As for Hearns, how on earth could Floyd at 5'8, cruise to a win over a 6'1 Hearns, who had a 79" reach, a lightening fast jab, and power to knock out anyone at 147-154?

How on earth would he have gotten inside?

He couldn't have outboxed Hearns. Can you imagine Floyd fighting him, like Ray did? I can't see it.

Tommy Hearns is without a doubt, the worst stylistic match up, that Floyd could ever have faced.

 

I respect yours as well, 100%.

Coming into a fight prepared is part of a fighter's greatness to me.

 

Its all about ur opinion but in my mind the 3 greatest i watched live are duran in 78 ali and robinson

 

My thoughts as well. I think Duran would have been too aggressive for Floyd to deal with, and Duran had a very defense as well.

 

Seeing duran live the first time was amazing i actually had thoughts mabe he could beat ray but the size was too much and when he fought ray leonard and he won i thought na ray would probs just take it. Because he was like ray but he brawled inside better and with more power

 

How would he get inside?

With footwork and timing. Once inside its advantage Floyd. I know Hearns jab is super fast and his reach was crazy, but Floyd isnt exactly a stationary target either.

However, even if you favor Hearns due to styles making fights, I dont see how that makes him better then Floyd. Like I said, Hearns had no chin, defense, inside game and when it comes down to it wasnt great from the neck up either.

 

I still dont think it can be judged yet. Hes not done by any means . Hes not the pacman of 08 09 but hes still one of the best fighters on the planet. Pac reminds me of duran just duran was that lil bit craftyr and trickr. Pac s place im my opinion is for now in the low 20s all time. About the same as floyd. Just because you prefer a style or a way peps fight dont make ur opinion better or the fighter any better its how a fighter masters his own style and uses it the best. This is what floyd sr and that clan seem to forget. Floyd and manny are around the same ranking in my eyes for now anyway.

 

This is why its vital for both they fight . And yes even now.

 

Firstly, that fight was much closer than most people realize, the cards were about a round or two apart in favour of SRL, so it was no blow out when it was stopped, contrary to popular opinion. And secondly, SRL didn't necessarily make a mistake fighting Duran the way he did in the first fight, Duran imposed his will on SRL and had him hurt in the second round. Against Floyd, given his reluctance to fight Pac I got to be believe the one flaw about him is he don't like getting hit, he doesn't like being in a fight, he loves to box fighters, but not actually fight them, and against Duran he'd be in a fight, like it or not.

And you really need to watch more boxing if you think Heans doesn't have the skills to beat Floyd, honestly you're young, my guess is you're in your 20's and you automatically assume us older guys are seeing things through rose colored glasses. My answer to that, is don't believe a word I say, watch some fights and come to your own conclusion. All I ask is that you don't speculate without watching these guys actually fight before voicing your opinion, and that's clearly what you are doing.

And yes, Floyd is up there with some of the greats talent wise, we just want to see him test himself more, so we can properly gauge how good he is, and that's why we all wanted him to fight Pac in his prime. If nothing else it would have given us a handle on how he would handle a talented pressure fighter with good power.

 

Don't know enough about SRR to make a contribution here, so I'll compare Floyd to SRL (who I have seen quite a bit on tv/video) instead;

By eye test I find Floyd to be in the same league. They seem to be evenly matched in speed and skill and fitness. I wouldn't expect domination one over the other in fantasy fight land.

The big difference is in who they fought and Floyd is lacking. He has never been tested the way Leonard was. I'm not gonna get into why Floyd hasn't tested himself against closest possible equivalents to Benitez, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, but as the one chasing greatness, it's on him to find and secure for himself such challenges.

It hasn't happened. Has it?

 

I also think Duran had a much better chin then Pac. JMM's punch would never have decked Duran in that manner. Hell even after Hearn cold ****ed him he got up under his own power and was really to keep on fighting, and certainly Moore and Barkley hit him with shots that were way harder than anything JMM threw at Pac. I also think Duran was a more aggressive fighter than Pac and had a better defense.