Floyd Haters say that Hatton had NO business fighting at 147lbs...

Floyd can go from 130-160 but Hatton needs to stay at 140 because 147 is too much weight for a guy who blows up to 180 when hes not fighting.:-(

 

I think it was necessary for Hatton to move up to 147lbs because he had achieved practically everything at Junior Welterweight. That being said, he was found to be far less effective at that weight after he went life and death with Collazo, who is nothing more than gatekeeper.

If Mayweather can't fight Manny Pacquiao then he himself has nothing else to do at 147lbs in my mind's eye, and for that reason, it would be necessary for him to move up in weight and challenge himself.

You can't be ****ing surprised that people are never happy with Floyd when he's coming out and claiming to be the best fighter in the history of the fight game. That's nonsense.

Muhammad Ali claimed to be the greatest fighter in Heavyweight history, and he set out to prove that by cleaning out his divisions not once, not twice, but practically three times.

 

Its not common sense, but since his points are what you agree with. Any moron that comes in here and says that a world class fighter has no shot at beatting another world class fighter has no business posting. If that were the case then what the **** is the point in fighting?? Hell we could just come here and have this Addie cat tell us who would win every fight, there would be no need for them to fight. Saying that Floyd would beat the crap out of Berto is stupid, Berto is a good fighter, does he have a great shot at beatting Floyd?? No, but I think he has about the same chance as pac does. this guys is lame and doesnt understand that just because a fighter beat one fighter it doesnt mean that he can beat every fighter that that fighter beat. Ive known that your a moron for a long time but now maybe I should add Addie to that list. Does Collazo have a great shot of beatting Pac, no but he has a better shot then clottey did. Would I bet on Collazo to beat pac, not likely. Would I be shocked like Douglas vs Tyson if he did?? Not even close.

Addie doesnt really read that well yet he claims that of others. Not many would complain about Floyd fighting Martinez, the point of the thread is that some would like to play both sides of the field depending on who they are talking about. To say that hatton has no business fighting ONE ****ing weight above his best weight then saying that floyd HAS to move up not one but two weights above what he is fighting now to prove that he is good is, well coming from a place that isnt middle of the road like this guy is claiming to be. Thing is Floyd would even be able to pull a Mannyweight fight with a middleweight or that will become the next warcry.

 

Hatton was very limited and was never going to be a factor at 147 due to the talent in the division as i think a prime Hatton would have big trouble in todays 140 lb division with all of the young lions there. But what we have with Floyd is a man who has come from 130 and is being asked to now go to 160. Will it stop there? If he wins how long will it be before a fight is hyped up between him and Andre Ward or Bute? From a "Floyd fan" point of view it seems as though many want him to push himself until he loses. As an unbiased fan i want him to go to 160 and retire after that win or lose.(After the Pac fight)

 

You sound like a real dumbass here. You cant even keep your train moving in the same direction. You say that Floyd has nothing to prove by fighting any welterweight other then pac, then you use Ali as an example of a fighter cleaning out a his division. Wouldnt floyd staying at welterweight and beatting all the other fighters there be him cleaning out the division????

Nah your no middle of the roader your a hater pure and simple. And like all hate its based in blinded half truths and double talk. Get it together, at least keep with one line of thought.

 

You came across as dismissive, presumptuous and rude in your very first reply to me. I decided to shut off because of that, we could have had a serious, mature discussion but that wasn't on the agenda, clearly.

I sincerely hope that your favorite active fighter, Floyd Mayweather Jr, can shut up all his detractors but I fear he may have set himself unattainable goals.

 

I get what your saying, but Floyd could move up to 160 and fight there. he would be small but the best middleweights are really just jr middleweights. But saying that Hatton had no business fighting at 147 is simply a way to discredit Floyd win over him at the weight. I wouldnt pass those guys any mind at this point.

Problem is at the end of the day it has nothing to do with anything in terms of a fight with Floyd and pac. Many of these morons tried to use that same logic when talking about the fight with Floyd and hatton before it happened. Oh Hatton distroyed Castillo and floyd didnt even beat him the first time, they said before the fight. After the fight it was Hatton has no business at 147. its the same with Shane vs Floyd. Problem is these guys forget that its a simple matter of hitting the search button to see what they said, and how thier story changes with time and the situation.

 

...Yawn.

Yawn.

Muhammad Ali, being a Heavyweight, didn't have the options to move up and down weight but in addition to that, he was only claiming to be the greatest Heavyweight of all time, and I feel he proved that by taking care of business over a sustained period of time.

Mayweather, in complete contrast, has many options to move up in weight, and the fighters of the past who he claims to be greater than, have all done that with mixed results. Muhammad Ali was also, of course, fighting in a very competitive division, whereas I consider the current Welterweight division to be average at best.

I don't see what is so difficult to understand. Here's what I'll suggest you do Hudson. Wipe the slate clean, rid yourself of all of these preconceived notions about me being a hater and a Mayweather detractor and take my posts on face value. I'm clearly saying, for the hundreth time, that I don't consider any other Welterweight in the world other than Manny Pacquiao to be a match for Mayweather...and therefore I'm suggesting he move up.

Ali had specific goals and ambitions, and he fulfilled them by doing what was necessary. I'm only suggesting Mayweather make the most of his peak years and challenge himself. There's no doubt in my mind that Floyd feels confident in beating the likes of Martinez and Williams.

 

I know! Hatton couldnt go up 7 lbs but Floyd can go up 30. I think that many people will find a way to discredit Floyd EVEN IF he wins a MW belt. It will all of a sudden become the weakest MW division ever(which i think it is) but the point falls back to the fact that they are calling it a challenge for him until he wins the fight then the excuses roll in.

 

:tired

 

So you are the one that decides who should be fightin who now??? Because you dont deem anyone as good enough to fight floyd then he should move up. I beg to differ. I think that Berto is a good young fighter with great hand speed and he has a shot at beating Floyd. I think that he has a better shot then pac does. In fact I think that he has a better shot then all the fighters at 154 and all but a few middlewieght. Boxing isnt about the name value of a fighter, its about STYLE matchups. As i stated many posts ago when is the last time we saw Manny fight a boxer with fast hands or a mover??? It doesnt happen because those fighters are a bad style matchup for Manny. Look how much trouble a very limited clottey gave him with his counters and boxing, albeit with very few punches.

As for floyd, I could care less if he fights Pac, Berto williams or Martinez. I would like to see all those fights no matter who wins. My point is the bar keep moving for some fighters and things are ok for others. floyd isnt the first and only fighter to call himself the best fighter ever, and he wont be the last. Saying that doesnt mean that he has to fight EVERYONE within a 30 pound radius of him. In most cases Floyd beatting Shane would be deemed as a great tourn type win. He beat Shane who beat Margo. But Im sure that something was promised to Berto and if he gets a fight with Floyd its should be a cause to backlash. But it will be being that guys like you have already started in. Unbeatten young champ unworthy of a fight with floyd??? come man, how is that not hatered.

 

Dont make me call off the truce! You know Its a double standard. And for the record Hatton was a **** talker. I recall him saying something about his four rounds with Castillo being more exciting than Floyds career. Only difference between his **** talking and Floyds is he couldnt back it up. And since he couldnt back it up he was "out of his weght class" at 147? I think not. He was 1-0 at 147 before Floyd knocked him into the ringpost.

 

Are you ****ing serious? :blood

I said...I would suggest he move up if the Manny Pacquiao fight can't be made and you're all like, "SO YOU MAKE THE ****ING DECISIONS NOW?"

That is where we differ.

I saw Berto look very average last time out, and he hasn't really impressed me against low level competition whereas Manny Pacquiao decisively beat both Miguel Cotto and Joshua Clottey.

Joshua Clottey won two-three rounds, and is more accomplished than anyone Berto has beaten up until this point.

Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, both of them, are held to a higher standard than everyone else in the world because they are clearly the best two fighters out there. It's not just because of what Floyd has said in the media, it's because we expect the best P4P fighters in the world to take on tough challenges. Floyd hasn't exactly been pushing himself lately, he's fought twice in three years. We're not asking much of him, I just personally wouldn't want to see him take Berto apart...because he would.

I don't usually get involved with the "Well, if Floyd fights him he's a *****" talk, and if he fights Berto, I sincerely doubt that would change. All I'm saying is, if Floyd really thinks he's the baddest man on the planet and so far ahead of the competition, why wouldn't he move up and fight some tough Middleweights. In fact, I wouldn't even be bothered if he went up and fought a Joppy type fighter just to test the waters...but something to indicate that he's going to make some great intriguing fights in the future.

 

170!!! Try doubling that - the guy is a mess!

 

Those who say Hatton had no business fighting at 147 are wrong, but there's a huge problem here comparing both Hatton and Mayweather. Floyd is leagues above Ricky, and therefore he'd be able to move through the divisions as he has done throughout his career, and still remain on top.