Floyd huggers may be extremely happy tonight

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  1. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I actually believe that Clottey is more dangerous than Cotto. It puzzled me how he lost the fight against Cotto. But Pac will solve the puzzle in beating this guy.
     
  2. Danny_Rand

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    Just dont fight him at madison square. Pac could knock Cotto out and the judges would still give it to Cotto. Raise his hand on a hospital gurney. :rofl
     
  3. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    STFU this guy is making an opinion He is not following you with your trolling with hating post.
     
  4. gooners!!

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    Punch stats are so accurate right ? (Calzaghe v Hopkins) :nut

    You dont know **** about defence. Cotto is no Mayweather,Guzman but only a ****ing idiot!! would say he has virtually no defense because he is not in the caliber when it comes to defence.

    Hatton is a man with virtually no defense.

    Let me teach you something aarrgh KID :patsch defence is not just about glueing your hands to the side of your head like a battered woman. There are different ways to defend yourself, and a fighter like Cotto uses upperbody movement when his hands are down, which can be just as effective when looking to slip punches.

    I guess you think Kessler has a great D because he has a silly guard glued to the side of his head :lol:
     
  5. Scar

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    There's no need to be excited for nothing, Arum is still looking to push for a Cotto fight and there was no need for this fight to prove something already mentioned and revealed regarding Cotto long ago. It's just that people tend to nuthug anything they can find to feed on hate.

    Pacquiao vs Mayweather/Marquez winner is the fight to make in boxing right now. Pacquiao already said it and also said he's waiting for that fight's result before announcing his next fight.

    I've said even before the Clottey fight that Pac knocks out Cotto in 5 rounds at most. If the Mayweather fight doesn't happen after the Marquez fight then I see Mayweather fighting Mosley and Pac fighting Cotto then maybe after that the winners meet whoever they are.
     
  6. Soriano

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    Basically that's how defense goes. Unless some pseudo-scientists like you invented a new one. In all martial arts, the hand protecting your chin is the best defense.
     
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    I can tell you are a cotto hater give this man some credit.would you?
     
  8. Scar

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    Clottey is overrated here for unknown reasons to me, the guy's abilities are OBVIOUS as hell I don't understand how even a casual fan would be confused. The guy is decent at best, poor stamina, normal power, limited/predictable skills, poor speed, terrible finisher and a solid chin. He's the type of fighter to give others tests for a few rounds and that's about it.

    Cotto isn't a puzzle either and I'm a fan of his, been saying this since the Torres fight. Cotto can't handle aggression and activity, as long as you keep throwing he panics and eventually breaks down. All it takes is aggression, stamina and a decent chin. Not much skill, speed or power needed but those can make the job easier of course.

    I've said before the fight that Clottey waits a lot and that will be his downfall, he waits becaus he can't afford not to knowing how limited his gas tank is. He could have finished Cotto since round 7 if he committed to it and I knew wouldn't.
     
  9. gooners!!

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    Yes but there is more to defence than JUST holding your hands high. :roll:

    There is catching/slipping upperbody movement/footwork/pivoting etc. All of these attributes are part of your defence.


    Whether you have your hands high or not the opponent is still allowed to punch through your gloves and it can still hurt. Holding your hands really high like Clottey is kind of a blocking method .

    Fighters like McCallum,Toney slip punches as a defence. There is a difference between the two.
     
  10. Danny_Rand

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    :lol::lol::lol: You are merely playing semantics over the wording I used because you dumbass has no ****ing argument. Cotto has a very poor defense. He has been rocked by fighters like Corley, Torres, Malignaggi and Judah. He was brutalized by wide swinging Margarito. The same Margarito that couldnt beat Daniel Santos, Paul WIlliams an a 37 year old Mosley. Margaritos wide swinging punches made Mosley look like a master pugilist. Like Sugar ray Leonard reincarnated.

    Cotto on the other hand was getting walloped against the ropes largely because of his shitty defense and inability to fight off the ropes.

    Now considering how many times he's been rocked in fights. why should I call his defense average? Sorry its poor and when he gets tired its virtually non-existent.

    :rofl You'd have a point if he actually you know, slipped the punches.

    :rofl Please dont put words in my mouth you ****ing clown. Btw, Cotto does utilize the high guard defense when he's not tired. Its just really ineffective because instead of keeping his elbows straight, he guards in like a butterfly motion and thats why he is always getting ripped by upper cuts.

    Seriously fool, you are out of your element. Go back to watching soccer or some ****. You know nothing about boxing.
     
  11. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You was a Pac hater but now since Pac is tread to Floyd you tend to love him more becasue you are not sure that You boyfriend can beat Pac now and now support Pac because if he beats Floyd you are not going to get fooled by other posters, and like always Floyd fans = Cotto haters so we can discuss that.
     
  12. Soriano

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    Hatton has all the talents of upperbody movement/footwork/pivoting that you're talking about but he forgot to keep his hands up and move his head. He paid a heavy price on such a basic way of defending oneself. One can't do without it.
     
  13. Scar

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    Idiot, since when was I a Pacquiao hater?, I've been a loyal fan of Pac since his fight with Hussein. :patsch

    Don't type garbage out of your ass.

    I'm also a Cotto fan but not a delusional one like yourself.
     
  14. gooners!!

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    How am i playing semantics you ****witt ? i quoted you :nut

    Its a Boxing match son you are going to get hit with punches no matter how good your defence is. Point is ..........you make out his defence is non existent but if it was non existent he would of been hit with a lot more of those right hands that Clottey was throwing when he was on the ropes, instead of sliding off the ropes and pivoting away from them, of coarse he got caught occassionally, he had a bad cut and Clottey was bringing it.


    Like i said the comment you made should be reserved for guys like Hatton,Gatti.

    Cotto was not getting walloped on the ropes, he got trapped their a couple of times but you make it sound like he was doing a Jones vs Tarver.:patsch

    I know more than you will ever know about Boxing.........Hillbilly :good

    He did slip punches. You did not see him pivot away from the ropes when Clottey's through right hands ?


    Cotto uses the high guard when he is attacking, he tends to drops his hands a little more and slip/pivot more when he is on the backfoot.

    Americans are dizzy mofo's, go get your pom pom pom's love:lol:
     
  15. gooners!!

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    No one is saying drops your hands completely:roll:

    Hatton does not slip shots to defend himself, he slips shots to mount offence there is a difference.