Floyd "Il Never look like Roy Jones"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nigel_Benn, Jul 3, 2007.


  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Contradiction.

    But I will help you finish here, his defense was his offense. Roy had you stuck on stupid with the speed, accuracy, power, and unorthodoxy of his punching. He didnt need to worry about defense for most of his career.
     
  2. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course he's better than Roy. He's better than Ray Robinson, too, you know. He said so.

    I hope Hatton lands a lucky punch, Floyd wakes up and promptly apologises.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Shitty opposition? Hopkins, Toney, Hill, McCallum, Tarver, Woods, Gonzalez, Del Valle, Johnson, Ruiz, Griffin, Pazienza, Malinga, and Castro aren't **** opponents.

    And so what if Roy didn't have the fundamentally sound defense and the shoulder roll of Mayweather. In his prime he was so fast and naturally gifted along with superhuman reflexes, that he was real hard to hit and got away with mistakes. It worked well for him and made him a future hall of famer, so more power to him.

    What do you mean Roy Jones couldn't counterpunch? Watch the Toney fight and watch his quick, short counterpunches. That's a dumb comment.
     
  4. Biggame

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    You're post is exactly why I've always felt that prime for prime Floyd was and is a better fighter! Floyd had the speed, athleticism, talent, and the only thing that he lacked that Roy had was more power! Ppl tend to look at Floyd's fights against bigger guys at 147lbs, and at 154lbs(single fight) and make there assesments, but Floyd was the overall package, and he won't be exposed which is why he was prime for prime a better fighter! He was better technically, fundamentally, and defensively. If Roy fought guys anywhere near is speed, and talent level I don't know how he would cope. He used reflexes, and pure talent but against slower fighters.

    Even an out of prime RJJ should still never lose to Glen Johnson if he was more than speed and reflexes! Don't get me wrong when we talk about RJJ. I think he was one of the greats of our time, and I'm a big fan of his, but I hated the fact that he was all flash, and I knew it would catch up to him! I still loved the flash, but Flashy fighters lose bad, and ugly eventually if they run into a fighter who has the same flash, or who can manage to take that away from them if they have nothing to fall back on. No basics ruins you in the end!
     
  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Who, from 160-175, was as fast or as talented as Jones?
     
  6. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I will never understand comments like these.

    If Fedor fought anyone with his same skill level he may also lose, but there isnt anybody with it, thats the whole point.
     
  7. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    It says he is an ATF fighter with skills we may have never seen in boxing history.

    Oh yeah, and your remark about his opposition. Funny, most of the other guys who fought Hopkins and Toney needed defense. :think
     
  8. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Its funny to me to see Floyd fans knocking Roy´s competition.

    Which two fighters exaclty on Floyd´s resume match up with Bernard Hopkins and James Toney? :hey
     
  9. A-50

    A-50 Active Member Full Member

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    Roy Jones has a Glass Jaw. PBF would knock him out.
     
  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Just like he knocked out Zab Judah right? And also because Floyd has the power and size of Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson right?
     
  11. JC2006

    JC2006 Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah at what weight class? PBF doesn't have the power to knock him out at any time in history.
     
  12. PBF P4P #1

    PBF P4P #1 Member Full Member

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    True and when that leaves you it is hard to compete at the highest level, however if you are still the most skillful ala BHop you can still compete at the highest level
     
  13. A-50

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    Glen Johnson ain't got any power, neither does Tarver really. Roy Jones fought police officers and bartenders, he never took a risk with maybe the exception of Tarver who knocked his ass out in 2 rounds and embarrrassed him in the 3rd fight. Jones knew he had a Glass Jaw, that is why he avoided power punchers his whole career. He handpicked 95% of his opponents. These are facts. :smoke
     
  14. BeReal

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    Good ole Floyd nuthuggers, if he said Sugar Ray Robinson was never any good, there is some moron out there who would second his opinion :roll:
     
  15. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can't help but laugh everytime someone says that Hopkins wasn't in his prime when he fought Jones. Hopkins had 22 consecutive wins before he lost to Jones, and he never lost again until meeting Taylor. Not only that, but I should also mention that the Hopkins and Jones fight was for the IBF title, and as soon as Jones leaves the division, Hopkins wins that very title just two years later.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is.... Jones beat PRIME Hopkins. :good

    If both fighters wanted a rematch, they should've met his demands. Jones offered Hopkins a 60-40 split.. that's not reasonable?


    Not only is Roy Jones a champion in four different weight divisions, but he absolutely ruled the entire light-heavyweight division.