Floyd in the late 70's, 80's.

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    This "Mayweather didn't have guts" stuff is tired and lazy. Since you apparently didn't follow his career, you should look up the circumstances of some of those fights not happening/being delayed. Called out Mosley for years and Cotto's people (Top Rank) rejected his proposal to fight Margarito and Cotto, from what I understand. I won't waste the energy explaining any of this stuff because it seems useless.
     
  2. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Oh is that right Leonard, or should we call you Floyd?

    Quoting the proven liars Ellerbe and Mayweather is the stuff of desperation. Perhaps you should read the posts of some of his other die hard fan boys, ( you are not the only one ) who give him huge credit for playing the waiting game and getting opponents at the right time.

    So to reiterate Mayflower would NEVER find the guts to get in with ANY of the fab 4 prime for prime.
     
  3. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think so

    Cuevas?

    Floyd's way too slick for him

    Cervantes?

    He was past his best

    Floyd beats him

    All the others are very intriguing.

    I think he loses to Montreal Duran. Any other version of 147 or 154 lb. Duran he beats

    Hearns probably beats him

    Benitez/Floyd is a toss up
    Leonard probably beats him

    Hagler is just too big and strong. I doubt he's fight Hagler.

    McCallum and Curry could go either way.
     
  4. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duran and Pryor beats him. He edges Cervantes and Palomino, loses to Benitez, Leonard, and Hearns, and both Curry and McCallum beats him. He also loses to McCrory and Starling.
     
  5. N_ N___

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    Beats Cuevas, Palomino, Cervantes, and Pryor

    Likely catches Duran at a time when he'd definitely beat him

    Probably beats Mcallum and Benitez

    Close with Curry and Leonard (split?)

    Probably loses to Hearns

    Wouldn't fight Hagler
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd is not very effective at 154 pounds. Look at his fight with faded Delhahoya. Mc Callum was at his best at 154 pounds. A good puncher and 5.11 tall. This is a no brainer for me.

    Also I think Curry is too big and powerful for Floyd.
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    Depends on how fair people are willing to be. Are we immediately throwing him in at welterweight which in reality he did not ascend to until he was already roughly nine years into his career and had already gone through three division prior? Or are we progressing him in the natural fashion in which he "actually" began? If the latter is true, then he'd probably do quite well.. Let's say he comes out of the Olympics of 1976 rather than 1996 and starts at Junior lightweight the way he did in actuality and takes two years to materialize before getting a title shot at the Junior lightweight title. The top dogs at that weight were Alexis Arguello, Fankie Baltazar, Bobby Chacon, etc. I think he could have beaten those guys with Arguello being a very tough fight. He stays there until roughly 1981 before moving up to Lightweight which saw guys like Arguello ( again ), Aaron Pryor, Ray Mancini, Edwin Rosario, etc.. I think he beats most of them with Pryor being a 50/50 fight, but I'd still lean towards Floyd's defensive style to negate pryor non stop attacks. He decides to move up in 1983 after spending two years at lightweight which he did in the real time line. He's now at Junior welter where the opposition is basically **** with Johnny Bumphus, Billy costello and Ronnie Shields. He easily takes a strap or two and after a year moves up to welter bringing us to about late 1984 to early 1985. He now has Donald Curry to contend with along with Milton McCrory and a young crop of up coming welters featuring Marlon Starling, Simon Brown, Loyd Honeyghan and eventually Mark Breland who just got out of the 84 Olympics.. This is probably Floyd's toughest situation as he is now 30 years old and has now jumped for the third time in his career.. A loss is possible here, but I think he does very well... So all in all... If things progess for Floyd as they did in the ACTUAL time line, then he likely misses about 90% of the names on Longhorn's list with the possible exception of Aron Pryor and Donald Curry.
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    none of these guys were in HIS weight class for the first five years he was a pro. And only "some" of them were in the weight classes that he would ascend to at the "time" he rose to them.
     
  9. Saad54

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    Well, then for suspension of disbelief, just ****yze Floyd's best version at each weight against those guys at their best in given weight class.
     
  10. N_ N___

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    He looked amazing against Canelo.
     
  11. Foxy 01

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    Then given his modus operandi, it is more than fair to say he would have been in no hurry to move up ( given that Leonard, Hearns, Duran and indeed Hagler ) were in their primes at the time the OP mentioned late 70's - 80's as was McCallum by the mid 80's.
     
  12. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    You do know that Mayweather moved up multiple divisions just to chase Oscar and Shane, two of the top pound for pound fighters of that era, right? Tell us some more about his M.O. :patsch
     
  13. LoRd_inFamousX1

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    :deal
     
  14. Hookie

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    Leonard, Hearns, and Duran beat Mayweather. Pryor and Benitez have a chance. He probably wouldnt fight McCallum and definitely not Hagler. Mayweather beats the others.
     
  15. Hookie

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    I think Curry gets overrated sometimes.