Floyd is a ducker because arum said so...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IVLG, Dec 3, 2009.


  1. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Another bull**** video,shouldnt you be banging the fat chick in your avatar instead of looking for videos to defend a guy that doesnt even know you exist.just saying :yep
     
  2. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Do you have gender issues? Why do you bring that thing here unless you have insecurities.

    When it is a debate, stick to issues. Did I talk **** about floyd??? When I said he is a douchebag with talent, I mean it (it is not libelous because he really is a douchebag). I am sorry I offended you feelings of asffection and ambiguity by calling Mayweather a douchebag. I never realized you are extremely sensitive when it comes to Mayweather.

    FYI, I admire Mayweather's skill and used to be a fan when he was campaining at 130, but lost respect with all the ***** move they made against JMM.

    1. Can't make weight - suddenly have injury and postpone the fight.
    2. Can't make weight despite the postponement - change the contract the night prior to fight

    Plus other factors like asking an obviously small man to go 2 weight divisions higher and come in overweight, purse parity, etc. and I am not even a JMM fan. How many more advantage do they want in that fight aside from the obvious ones in the contract - come in 2 pound overweight? I just can't shake this feeling that they were trying to squeeze as much advantage they can get.

    BTW, those emoticons does not make an argument stronger. Does your emoticon reflect how you feel because it looks like she is wiping her tears.

    And if you really carefully read your post, it has a tone of apologizing in behalf of Mayweather, and believe me because I do know a little of creative writing, not much but enough to tell you with honesty that it really is.
     
  3. Nah, Im not a dumbass. Youre a just nuthugger who's hurt by criticism. Floyds accomplishments at 130 and 135 have nothing to do with this. Does anybody criticise what he did down there? Nope, not as far as I can see. People are just well aware that Floyd hasn't proved himself at 140+, dispite campaigning there for nearly 5 years and there being no shortage of talent around. You can toss out anecdotal points till the cows come home -"Floyd wanted to fight bla bla but he couldnt because bla bla" - It's only cuts it for so long. In the end, the results speak for themselves. His resume at 140+ is mediocre. The fact that you chose to overlook this fact and defend his safe career moves just shows yr a nutgugger. Floyd always refutes you in his own words during interviews! His own answers to why he didnt fight Mosely are typically to do with Mosely not being able to generate PPV's. His own answer to accusations of avoiding challenges in the interview I posted was " Legacy doesn't pay the bills"!! lmfao..and this is the guy you wish to defend? Buddy, you're a joke and so is Floyd. Great fighter yes, proven..no.
     
  4. El_Rey

    El_Rey First in Last out Full Member

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  5. El_Rey

    El_Rey First in Last out Full Member

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    :good Excellent points.
     
  6. IVLG

    IVLG OBJECTIVITY IS BACK LOL Full Member

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    Actually a douchebag with talent
    is a description, and since you are in no position to make a description that can't be proven, it amounts to talking ****, and whatever you know about creative writing, you obviously didn't no enough to realize that calling someone a douchebag is a libel statement, because their are competing definitions of what a douchebag is, So on that alone you lose again...So instead of leaving well enough alone you try to lie with the following statement..

    (FYI, I admire Mayweather's skill and used to be a fan when he was campaining at 130, but lost respect with all the ***** move they made against JMM.

    1. Can't make weight - suddenly have injury and postpone the fight.
    2. Can't make weight despite the postponement - change the contract the night prior to fight)

    ??????WTF are you talking about how many years went by from the last time Floyd, campaigned at 130 to the JMM fight, 8 years. See how that makes little to no sense at all, Floyd stopped fighting at 130 8 years ago, where was your opinion of him for the last 8 years, since you say you disliked him with the stunt he pulled in the JMM fight, Ill tell you where it was, you are a liar, an exposed liar at that, No way you can like floyd at 130 and say you lost all respect for him with the JMM fight, because they are 8 ****ing years apart. You never liked Floyd at any weight, you say you liked him at 130 because you have read that nonsense repeated by ESB posters over and over and over again, and its suspect whether or not you know anything about boxing at all. Best case scenario you are a New fan of boxing or you are a ******* and honestly these days I can't see much of a difference.:yep
     
  7. TheJuggernaut

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    Firstly, calm down. You've had your pat on the back from the mayweather community, but dont go thinking you owned anyone with this thread.
    All you basically said in that book of a post is that mayweather doesnt duck anyone he only fights the fights that make the most financial sense, and that that ducking rumor was a product of bob arum. You are partly right on both counts. Arum is a piece of ****, we all know that. And mayweather does only fight the fights that make the most business sense. But who didnt know that already? Thats part of the problem. We all understand that boxing is a business, and that you have to make money. But, like RA said, floyds bills have been paid. Honestly, whats another 2 or 3 million when your making no less than 10 million a fight. Since he left arum, he is in a position basically to fight anyone he wants. Any fight involving mayweather will generate millions, so why not fight for legacy now? You say legacy wont pay bills, and thats true, but is floyd going to go broke if he only fights the fights that will improve his legacy?? Of course not.
    How much sense did it make for him to retire on the bring ofwhat could have been a huge money fight, AND a great fight for his legacy in the cotto fight? Cotto at that time was number 2 in that division, and when a fight with him and mayweather was what the boxing public wanted to see, what did he do? "Im gonna retire from boxing, im not gonna let boxing retire me." Then came back and faught Marquez.

    You must be mayweathers lawyer, because your defending him better than he defends himself. You said he ultimately agreed to fight margarito, but wanted more money in his proceeding fights, then why when mayweather is asked why he ducked margarito he doesnt just say that? He just stammers on making excuses. "I asked someone who margarito is, and they didnt even know him" "Margarito had 5 losses" Why not just say "I agreed to fight him, but arum wouldnt give me the money i wanted in the next fight, against an even bigger name?" And now he's doing that same bull**** with Mosley."Mosley? Who has 5 losses? Wasnt he taking steroids?"
    And, if he already agreed to fight cotto, (You said that less money in a future bout with cotto was one of the factors that made him not fight margarito), then why didnt he persue that fight after he left arum??

    One more point, you floyd guys have a nack of calling us haters for not liking floyd. Ill outright admit that i really dont like him as a fighter or as a person. As a fighter, he has a saftey first style thats not to my liking (nothing wrong with that at all, just not my cup of tea), and when he is utterly dominating opponets, he refuses to take any risks to make the fight exciting. No reason he shouldnt have exerted himself more in the marquez fight. Add to that, he doesnt even fight the best fighters in his division. I dont care about financial aspects, as a boxing fan I want to see the number 1 guy in the welterweight division fight nothing buit the best guys avaliable. Instead he fights Hatton, marquez, and oscar. Yes he made more money, but his resume sucks at welterweight. As a fan of boxing im not happy with that, as a fan of floyd, you are.
    And, with his grade b- resume, he claims to be the best fighter ever. Skillwise, that may even be true, but we will never know because he wont put that to the test against the best opposition. No amout of defending you can do will change that my friend
     
  8. Calling someone a "douchebag" is a libel statement? You need to log off the internet, stop reading whatever it is you've been reading, and get some reality. lmfao
     
  9. IVLG

    IVLG OBJECTIVITY IS BACK LOL Full Member

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    Obviously you didnt read the thread either :-(
     
  10. IVLG

    IVLG OBJECTIVITY IS BACK LOL Full Member

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    Produce one article where someone in the media called someone a douchebag, if you can't do that ,take your keyboard and swallow it. And notice how I had 2 points in my response to you, and you didnt even attempt to argue with the second. So you are conceding that you are a liar, when you said you liked FLOYD at 130, and how we know this; is that you said you stopped liking him when he fought JMM which was 8 years apart :-:)-:)-(
     
  11. I think the only time you addressed me at all in this thread was "Obviously you didnt read the thread either :-(" Are you a little confused there??

    Im not about to consult the media studies journals canvassing for the word "douchebag", but there are a few concepts you obviously don't understand. Let me guess, youre a humanities student or something, right?? :rofl:rofl
     
  12. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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  13. IVLG

    IVLG OBJECTIVITY IS BACK LOL Full Member

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    Actually I did own with this post, from the fact that it took you responding to what I said atleast 5 times before you could even come up with anything that resembled some thought. The point of my post was to show that Floyd doesnt duck fighters he only fight the fights that make the most finacial sense, like any fighter in a position to fight for TOP DOLLAR, anything or any knock on Floyd or his resume goes beyond the scope of my post. ID like to see Floyd fight alot of people, But you concede that boxing doesn't work like that, so why you so mad with floyd playing the game as it is. So lets be honest Floyd can't fight Cotto now hes used goods, Floyd cant fight Margo, the cheating *******, Floyd can still fight Mosley if he beats Berto which he should, Floyd is gonna fight PAC, and Floyd can still fight Williams, the man who beat Margo. Take Cotto and Margo off the Table right, and who you left with Williams,PAC,Mosley. If it makes sense to fight them he will, if it doesn't he wont. I think I've said that enough times...
     
  14. IVLG

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    Political Science
     
  15. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Do you get any money from his purses douchebag?

    If not why are you here making excuses for him not to fight someone and justifying that with financial issues,the guy has been a rich man since he was at 130 he has more money than he will ever need and you're here defending him for being a greedy ******* instead of demanding to see him fight the best.

    Its cause of knuckleheads like you that he says "**** the fans" and keeps feeding the boxing public with bull****.

    He could be caught taking up the ass and you would be here posting stupid videos to justify his action.