Floyd is cleaning up the sport of boxing...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bayu, Jul 31, 2012.


  1. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well said.

    The double standards so many people have in the sport are embarrasing
     
  2. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Hey guys, I shot and killed an old lady the other day, but it's OK because I asked for an investigation into the murder.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    No one is playing dumb. You simply don't understand my point of view. Your insistance on defending everything that is Pacquiao might be the reason why. Nowhere did I make any excuses for Berto. I have no idea why he tested positive. All I know is that he did test positive, and he will face consequences from the commission.

    However, that's not relevant to the point at hand. The point is that he is more than willing to undergo the same stanadard of testing that Mayweather is advocating. If Mayweather believes in this standard of testing, then whether or not Berto purposely tried to cheat is irrelevant as he will be caught anyway.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    ***** contradictions and hypocrisy at it's finest. :lol:
     
  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    It is, mate.
     
  6. Elliot

    Elliot Boxing Addict banned

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    I don't give Berto a pass for failing a drugs test, to be honest I think failing a test should be an instant ban for life, however I give TMT a pass as they have to sign the best talent available and if it is found that he didn't purposely take the drug then they have made a decent signing.
     
  7. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Again, nowhere did I say it was ok that he tested positive. If I thought it was ok, then that would mean that I find testing to pointless. I certainly do not believe this.
     
  8. lorisko

    lorisko New Member Full Member

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    why can't he clean his act first before cleaning anything
     
  9. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Neither do you mine.

    You really think Floyd and Fiddy's (TNT) line of thinking is as simple as: "Oh, word? You'll do the same testing as us? Then all is good :happy"?

    I don't. Because if it was, they still wouldn't have been shitting on Pac with "take the test, take the test" long after Pac finally said he would 'undergo same stanadard of testing that Mayweather is advocating'. Like I said from the very beginning (three years ago): Floyd don't give a **** about cleaning up the sport, and this steroid-using thing is just a stick he's found to beat Pac with.

    It's clear as day that their, TNT's, attitiude toward's...
    • Pac possibly being a steroid user
    • and Berto definitely being a steroid user
    ...is not, or would not, be consistent. If Pac was to take his tests now, tomorrow they would still continue their notion that Pac was cheating throughout 2008-2010. Whereas Berto, because he's signed with them, will have his slate wiped clean. His past use wouldn't be talked of. All is forgotten if he takes the tests, but all is not forgotten if Pac takes the tests. That there is the line of thinking for TNT and its nutthuggers.
     
  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    So basically, your entire stance is based on your overwhelming desire to defend Pacquiao. Pretty much everything you're arguing here is based of assumptions; assumptions you're making in order to defend Pacquiao. Pacquiao has nothing to do with this. This is actually 50 Cent's company that Mayweather is involved with. They clearly have a stance that pushes for tougher drug standards. Berto has no issues getting in line with that stance. That's what we know. Now of course if you want to simply continue coming to conclusions based on assumptions of the personal thoughts of people that you don't even know, be my guest. We'll agree to disagree.
     
  11. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    of course people crucified him when it came out he tested positive.. but people forgave him a long time before he signed to TMT when it was revealed it was a TINY MINUTE ammount and was most likely contaminated
     
  12. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nope.

    My entire stance is based on the double-standards of TNT and its followers regarding the 'cleaning up the sport' campaign. That's all. Pacquiao or no Pacquiao, Floyd and TNT's stance is inconsistent. As evident by the Mosley build-up, where Floyd kept referencing Mosley's past steroid use and how we don't know how many wins of his are legit wins; prompting an annoyed Nazim Richardson to respond: "The man has already agreed to your tests, what more do you want?". <--- In your own words, Reggie: 'has no issues getting in line with that stance'. So let's see Floyd and Fiddy bring Berto's past wins into scrutiny like they did Mosley's.
     
  13. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like I said with the peterson and Berto cases. Peterson is stating he was using because of medical situation and with berto the traces were so small that contamination is a plausible explanation.

    Now in my eyes peterson situation is more in question than berto's as all he had to do was inform nevada of his medical problem and they would more than likely have given him an allowance to proceed with his treatment. The fact that he didn't raises a lot of question.

    As for Berto, reading up on his story, there isn't a lot to go on other than, contamination is a possibility. We can all make up our minds whether he tried to cheat or not, my opinion changes each time new info comes out about it. But thus far I am willing to give berto the benefit of the doubt if he willing takes extra testing from here on out.
     
  14. ajackman1

    ajackman1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Berto weren't really a drug cheat. His test revealed ultra-trace amounts of nandrolone in the low parts per trillion range and consistence with contamination not intent. So basically the amount in his system was so little that it was he didn't intentionally use it, it was contaminated by a food or supplement.
     
  15. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I find it funny how James Tony, Roy Jones, Sugar Shane Mosley can make a living yet a young berto who tested for minute traces of a banned substance should be banned for life :roll:

    If Berto is willing to do extra testing from here on out, just like he said he would, then I can't see the problem, unless people are suggesting he is capable of beating the tests, which raises the question if he is able to who else in the game is?:think