Floyd is just a limited counterpuncher

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by dsr, May 7, 2014.


Page 1 of 4
  1. dsr

    dsr Active Member Full Member

    962
    0
    Jul 10, 2011
    I re watched the Floyd - Maidana fight and this is the emerging conclusion, Floyd is just average at this point, and a case of him loosing this fight can be made easy.

    This is copied from another thread so here it goes, feel free to counter my arguments:

    Floyd lost the fight because he simply did not throw enough and that is because Maidana was always approaching him carefully with a good defensive guard and pushed him in the ropes where he got hit to the body and he did nothing most of the time. I don;t care Maidana was unable to land clear shots on the inside because Floyd just exposed his body by keeping the guard up and countering rarely - there is nothing to hit at this point except the body .

    He did well in 7-10 rounds he looked more in control this is where Maidana failed to maintain the game plan and stayed in the center too much.

    Floyd is just a fighter with impressive reaction times and will always win to slow fighters that come to throw 1 punch in the ring center or gas out after a few rounds. He is no where near being an all time great, he was unable to trouble Maidana AT ALL because his offense against a decent fighter is just crap, he creates no agles, has no combinations to break the guard, he is just a lazy counter puncher that has no response when there is nothing to counter he brings nothing to the table.
     
    dsr, May 7, 2014
    dsr, May 7, 2014
    #1
  2. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

    15,486
    41
    Mar 26, 2014
    5 weight champion.

    46-0

    Beaten over 20 title holders

    Beaten about half a dozen HOF fighters.

    Limited counterpuncher.

    Makes sense.
     
    STB, May 7, 2014
    STB, May 7, 2014
    #2
  3. dsr

    dsr Active Member Full Member

    962
    0
    Jul 10, 2011
    you;re forgetting the cherry picking, anyone can look great with careful chosen opponents that fail to address his world class attribute: reaction time

    please refute my points if you can ...
     
    dsr, May 7, 2014
    dsr, May 7, 2014
    #3
  4. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

    60,129
    5,612
    Nov 5, 2013
    Moronic *******ed TS

    Nothing to see here, moving on.
     
    MVC!, May 7, 2014
    MVC!, May 7, 2014
    #4
  5. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,635
    7
    Sep 15, 2004
    He is a special counterpuncher and his accuracy combined with his superb defense against TEXTBOOK guys makes him unbeatable against orthodox fighters. Awkwardness and broken rhythm coupled with pressure and unpredictability give him problems.

    I think Castillo gave him problems for several reasons: he doesn't lead off the jab but throws whatever: lead uppercut from either hand, at range or in close, hooks from either hand, double left hooks, lead rights, and had good power and decent speed in his feet to pressure relentlessly. Castillo is way more unpredictable than, say, JMM even though he has an orthodox stance. The awkward attack variety, throwing from "wherever" does not mean Floyd is a limited counterpuncher, but his style works better against some than others. In the fights where the shoulder roll didn't work (Augustus, Judah, Mitchell, Corley) he just had to outfight those guys, and he was better than them in every way. He wouldn't really survive an undisciplined brawl with Chino as he would against Corley.
     
    aramini, May 7, 2014
    aramini, May 7, 2014
    #5
  6. dsr

    dsr Active Member Full Member

    962
    0
    Jul 10, 2011
    I presented arguments please address them or gtfo my thread

    I am talking about Maidana fight because this guy had the game plan to expose Floyd for what he really is ...
     
    dsr, May 7, 2014
    dsr, May 7, 2014
    #6
  7. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

    60,129
    5,612
    Nov 5, 2013
    Yes a 46-0 champion

    Best fighter in the world

    Top 20-30 ATG, much higher than Pac

    Pac got knocked out by a 40 year old man Floyd shut out 12-0

    Marquez didn't lay a punch on him. :rofl

    Not wasting anymore time with you, this **** thread will either

    1. Moved to the whine thread

    2. Slide further and further into absolute obscurity.

    This content is protected
    :hi::hi::hi:
     
    MVC!, May 7, 2014
    MVC!, May 7, 2014
    #7
  8. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,398
    903
    Nov 24, 2012
    bullsh*t. Floyd is anything but limited. He's beatable which is a surprise to a lot of his followers but the man is an incredible boxer. He's just like anyone else.....there are always weaknesses and certain styles will always cause other styles problems. But it takes a lot more than the right style and gameplan to beat Floyd.
     
    JohnnyDrama99, May 7, 2014
    JohnnyDrama99, May 7, 2014
    #8
  9. dsr

    dsr Active Member Full Member

    962
    0
    Jul 10, 2011
    completely agree he is the perfect single hit counter puncher because of his incredible reaction time but sadly this only works if he knows when to counter, didn't worked against an awkward style as Maidana's

    and I would argue that Marquez is way better at reading the opponent because he is smarter;this is what I meant with limited, he can only counter punch some one easy to read and totally predictable and goes inno his defensive shell otherwise
     
    dsr, May 7, 2014
    dsr, May 7, 2014
    #9
  10. BoneKrusha

    BoneKrusha Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,524
    3
    Oct 5, 2013
    U floyd haters need to get a brain and a life

    Everyday it's the same non nonsensical bull**** from u guys
     
    BoneKrusha, May 7, 2014
    BoneKrusha, May 7, 2014
    #10
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    123,060
    35,177
    Jun 23, 2005
    He's 37 now not 27 and he was outweighed by almost 20 pounds.
     
    Pimp C, May 7, 2014
    Pimp C, May 7, 2014
    #11
  12. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,329
    2,095
    Jun 8, 2012
    getting yourself to believe this, i mean actually believe is pretty big man.
    some people can get themselves to believe anything, no matter how ridiculous it truly is
     
    Staminakills, May 7, 2014
    Staminakills, May 7, 2014
    #12
  13. dsr

    dsr Active Member Full Member

    962
    0
    Jul 10, 2011
    hey maybe he should have fought the best in his prime instead of avoiding and we would know more about him no?
    He is declaring himself as the best of his time and I simply laugh at that.
    He is a good boxer I know that, but my points still stand he has many many flaws am I not allowed to notice them?
     
    dsr, May 7, 2014
    dsr, May 7, 2014
    #13
  14. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,283
    469
    Mar 13, 2010
    and still won. People seem to be forgetting that part, or on purposely sweeping that under the carpet
     
    Azzer85, May 7, 2014
    Azzer85, May 7, 2014
    #14
  15. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

    20,570
    19
    Nov 10, 2007
    Cherry picking
    Glove picking
    Venue Picking
    Ref Picking
     
    janeschicken, May 7, 2014
    janeschicken, May 7, 2014
    #15
Page 1 of 4