Floyd is just pathetic and scared of Manny, period.

You can't have it both ways. What do you want him to do, be stubborn and stick to his guns and then yall can go back to bashing him for ducking or didn't you want the fight to happen? Someone's gotta move from one side to the other to come to terms right? Pac did that on the blood issue so that should have been the last hurdle or was it? Now Floyd is the one playing hot potato and made another sticking issue with the purse split. None of you pro Floyd guys are like wtf, but instead yall are hook line and sink with Floyd.

You think that's cool?

 

uhhhh yea....this is the problem with Pac...i dont for the life of me see how some of you dont see how flawed he is just as floyd is flawed.

the man has repeatedly lied as to why he cant give blood and been caught lying.

You just blatantly overlooked the fact that your boy said HE COULD NOT do the very same deal that he is accpeting now.

My problem with Pac is not that he said no...its the many lies and bullshyt stories he gave that you all swallowed up so willingly.

through ALLL of this Floyd has NOT lied but only been himself....pac has lied and bullshyted through the whole process....you can be mad at Floyd for stickig to his words and his guns all you want....am i saying its fine he asked for the drug test nope...but he did....it was up to Pac after that.....and this is what he chose to do....LIE and say he couldnt then wait three or 4 months down the line and now all of a sudden its a good deal?????? Come on man at some point you have to call a spade a spade.

You want to be mad at Floyd now because he is asking for different percentage? Why not? Its been what 4 months since the first negotiations.....ALOT has changed of course shyt will be different....Pac fukked up...they thought by him fightig a good fighter in Clottey and making good publicity, continuing to ride the Pac hype train(not calling pac a hype job but lately he has blasted onto the scene stronger than ever mainstream wise) and doing good numbers that they would corner Floyd....but Floyd did WHAT EVERYBODY thought he wouldnt do and fought Mosley and not only did he fight Mosley they did the test all the way to the fight, broke records in PPV sales, and he DOMINATED the #1 WW! I ask you why do you think the situatuion is now differnt then last time? Floyd now has the better leverage..Pac an camp had firm leverage last time and they pissed it away...people thought Floyd wouldnt do 50/50 last time too but guess what that was never the problem because he understood the situation. people dont give Floyd enough credit for his buisness savy mind...their is not ONE business man out there who wouldnt change if their STOCK GOES UP.....it happens..Pac's team is the one who now need to realize that they are not the ones who have the leverage and stop trying to save face because they FUKKED UP.

Im not saying i agree with everything FLoyd does...HOWEVER...what he is doing is not unlogical and in fact very logical....what Pac is doing is what is unlogical to me but yet some of you are intent on blaming Floyd for only doing what any business man would do!

 

Agree.:good
I can't believe haters, it's like damned if you do and damned if you don't. People negotiate for a reason, to make something work, that's the reason why things are changing through the negotiation process.

 

i just want the fight to take place. I'm neutral and I think a 45 45 purse with a 10% hangin up in the air for the winner would be fair and an added incentive to win the fight but as a fight fan you have to look at it from this perspective. If you were manny or floyd, would you let a fight fan influence what you do with millions of dollars? You're not the ones putting your life on the line here. Furthermore i dont think either is scared of one another...they're just jockeying for position..Manny being the big name in the welterweight division coming off of impressive fights and Floyd dominating someone that Roach didnt want Manny to fight..I mean it is what it is...Hopefully it all works out though.

 

So you're not happy with PAC who claimed at first that drawing blood weaken him but now accepted blood testing with 14 days cutoff instead of 21 days (or something) cutoff that Team PAC suggested before just to make this fight happen? You're not happy that PAC made some compromises now?

 

That's all you got left? Saying he lied and hurt your feelings therefor you don't like him anymore? Did you ever want the fight to happen?

 

nah my man...im not een sure how you got that...but i was telling the man up there that his boy Pac is Flawed just as Floyd is FLawed....people want to point and blame one person but BOTH are the reason to blame....that was all i was saying...you can take what you want with that.

 

Im glad he wants to take the shyt now...but there not arguing over the test now are they?

I only brought the test up because Pac was flawed in his ways as some of you for some reason seem to defend like you tell Floyd fans we defend Floyd's bullshyt but so do Pac fans.

I also brought it up because for some reason people seem to forget that it is again Pac's own fault we are at this PURSE bid today because had he just accpeted the shyt then that he for some reason can easily do now we wouldnt be where were at now.

my only argument is RECOGNIZE its not just one person BULLSHYTING.....its TWO!

 

I agree with you Floyd was the P4P#1 when he fought DLH

 

The one key element that Pac fans miss out on is the fact that Floyd specifically stated immediately after failed negotiation that the equal purse split and 14 day cutoff offers are no longer on the table. Pac and his team are aware of this yet they still ask for an expired offer, making Floyd look like he's snubbing the needy. You'd have a strong case if Floyd had all of a sudden changed his stance just days ago because that would suggest he's playing games. But as mentioned his plan was changed months ago. You'd also have a better argument if Pac's last PPV sales exceeded 1.4 million. Pac made a poor decision by fighting Clottey instead of taking the 50/50 split with Floyd.

In recent times Pac beat up a punching bag for 12 rds while Floyd took a more dangerous fight and wins in dominant fashion. As a result Floyd gains negotiation leverage and Pac still expects an equal share. Get out of town. I'm afraid it doesn't work like that in business. You let the good one get away and months later you return to the same huge lake hoping to catch the same fish. Good luck with that.

 

Make the fight happen first, then that kind of talk can make sense.

 

floyd is scared

 

pbf fans are always saying that floyd will beat pac easily yet their man is so cautious that hes starting to demand one thing after another that basically makes the fight so hard to negotiate.