Floyd is only TBE at 130. From 135-154 hes beatable.

Chavez wrecks him at 130.

 

Not sure how THAT'S your takeaway. I like Mannys composition at that weight and, as evidenced by JMM fight, 140 was hard to make for Floyd. The Manny that fought Hatton was fast and explosive with crazy punch output. Any fighter, Floyd or otherwise, would have a night against Manny if they struggled making weight.

 

Loma would no mas Floyd at 130

 

Floyd was past peak by the time he hit 147. At 140, he still had all of his attributes from the lighter weights, but was physically much stronger. He lost a lot chasing Oscar up to 147+; he was still great, but he was an entirely different animal before putting on the excess muscle.

 

I would take the Mayweather of the Gatti fight over the Pac of the Hatton all day and give him a good chance of stopping Pac. Mayweather still had his quickness and was stronger at 140 for this weight than at 147. After the Gatti fight, Hatton and Cotto didn’t want anything to do with Mayweather at 140. Honestly speaking, I think Mayweather is all wrong for Pac at any weight.

 

That was a seriously shopworn Gatti though and tailor made for Floyd’s PPV debut.

This version of Pacquiao that faced Hatton was a monster, a bit of a toss up but I’d favour Pac at 140.

 

Hatton wasn’t “shopworn “? He was knocked out in his next fight and then retired. Anyway, I think Mayweather was all wrong for Pac at any weight but I respect your opinion.

 

Gatti was chewed up and about to be spat out by the time he faced Floyd.

Hatton only had one loss. It’s a shame he took a several year layoff after the Pacquiao defeat because it was simply a situation of coming up against a phenomenal fighter with the wrong trainer and game plan in my honest opinion.

 

So you don’t think that Hatton getting knocked out in his next fight after Pac and then retiring doesn’t indicate that he was “shop worn “? lol Okay.

 

I mean, Pac looked like a monster against anyone not named JMM at that time. I don't think 140 added anything special to him. He was essentially the same guy at 135 and early on at 147.

If he'd faced JMM at 140, I don't think you'd be posting this.

 

Shopworn, I use the term to describe the wars Gatti was involved in prior to the Mayweather match. In other words, physically, he was knackered.

Hatton had a several year layoff after Pacquiao and came back only for fan support and glory.

 

Marquez was giving the “monster” Pac fits during this time period. The fact is Pac was far from unbeatable and probably would have been easy work for Mayweather at 140.

 

“If he'd faced JMM at 140, I don't think you'd be posting this.”

Possibly. Go back on the timeline though, Marquez jumped 140 to face Floyd at a catchweight.

 

This is correct. JMM had zero fights at 140 and Pac had exactly one. I just think that Pac/JMM is the same fight at any weight, their last fight notwithstanding.

I am partial JMM, though. I rate his strategic demolitions of Diaz and Katsidis very highly. Incredible boxing IQ and problem solving.

 

Manny would have kod Hatton at any time. There is no time in Hattons life is he not getting knocked out by Manny or Floyd.