Floyd Joy Sinclair has once again had his resume boosted to a new level with this Jacobs win

He's doing exactly against Trout what he did against Jacobs. The footage shows it clear as day.

Your clip showed just a few moments from round 4. The clip i posted shows a lot more moments throughout multiple rounds.

He got caught because the clip didn't focus on a single segment of the fight and because Trout threw a lot more punches than Jacobs did.

There were many rounds Canelo got sloppy and was caught against Jacobs , notably in the 9th when Jacobs nearly took his head clean off.

There wasn't a moment of the fight where Canelo was bothered by a single punch Trout landed. Partly because of his exceptional defense. The defense you claimed wasn't there in 2013.

 

The fights exist in full for all to see. The clip was not THE argument. Do you seriously think I was suggesting that Canelo had never ducked a punch before?

Trout is not a hard puncher and Canelo has a great chin.

 

You posted a clip and made the above argument.

He was producing those exact defensive maneuvers in 2013 against Trout.

 

The difference between Wlad facing other heavyweights who weigh a bit more is the fact that they would still be within the same weight class. Mayweather facing Canelo without a dehydration clause in effect meant that Mayweather was operating against a guy who was easily one, and possibly two divisions heavier when they stepped inside the ring. That's not a marginal disadvantage to overcome.

Canelo looks wider and thicker in that picture, and especially in this one:

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I do agree that Canelo had yet to reach his peak when he met Mayweather. But he was hardly a novice, either. He wasn't that far removed from the guy who would wipe out guys like Angulo and Kirkland, and secure a decision over Lara before facing Cotto. That fighter was undoubted world class...borderline elite, even. So, for an aging Mayweather to handle a young, stronger, bigger guy so conclusively is indeed noteworthy. Yes, Canelo would get better...and yes, the catchweight, though not particularly egregious, provides an asterisk...but this is still a very good win that shouldn't be dismissed entirely and will look better in time.

It's not quite analogous to Sanchez's victory over Nelson in that regard...but it's in the same ballpark, imo.

 

Mayweather was defending the WBA Super Welter Weight Championship in this fight. They were in the same weight class.

Mayweather's team wanted the catchweight for the sole purpose of limiting Canelo's ability to safely hydrate.

It's all in the angles. There just isn't that big of a size difference between these guys. Canelo has wider hips and chest, but Mayweather has a broader back and larger arms.

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He was very good, just not as great as he is now. Calling him a novice or green is hyperbolic trash talking, about on par with the other side arguing there is no difference between 2013 and 2018..etc.

 

Good job proving Canelo has consistently used maneuvers in different fights. Was obviously not my point, but you can have it.

 

The same way Alfonso Gomez's resume got boosted when he beat Castillo, who beat Mayweather.

 

I dunno. Canelo clearly looks larger to me in that picture, too. Since there wasn't a re-hydration limit in place (ODLH held firm on that), it seems probable that Canelo rehydrated to 170lbs, whereas Mayweather traditionally has only rehydrated about 5lbs (if that) since moving up to WW. That's a pretty substantial gap in weight for non-heavyweight fighters. Mayweather did utilize his reach advantage to good effect, but a two inch edge in reach isn't quite as foreboding when fighting a guy two divisions higher on fight night.

I can agree more or less with the last statement, though. Canelo would go on to become elite, but you could see he had the tools to become that fighter even then.